NY Post: AFDI “Group behind anti-jihad ads challenges MTA ban”

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Where do these fascist fatcats think they are, banning free speech? Nazi Germany? The maligning Mr. Moerdler, leader of the ban board, invoked Nazi Germany to enact the same restrictions on free speech that let to Nazi Germany’s murderous reign.

We are fighting back against the vicious power-grab. Full video playlist of MTA sharia vote here.

Public service ads are allowed, and our ads are the embodiment of the public service ad. What could be more serviceable than saving your life?

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This is the opening salvo. I expect that the MTA will call on those limousine liberal lawyers in their ivory towers to enforce their free speech putsch. For the left, Baltimore is “free speech,” Ferguson is “free speech,” but our ads “might incite violence.”

Off topic but related; the reportage below refers to our ad as  “Anti-Muslim” — opposing jihad terror is “anti-Muslim”? Speaks volumes, don’t you think?

“Group behind anti-jihad ads challenges MTA ban,” By Rebecca Harshbarger and Rich Calder, NY Post, April 30, 2015

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The group that wants to run an anti-Muslim [sic] ad on city buses filed a letter in Manhattan federal court on Thursday charging that their ad is a public service and the MTA’s new policy violates its constitutional rights.

Judge John Koeltl ruled earlier this month that the MTA had to run an ad by The American Freedom Defense Initiative that read “Killing Jews is Worship that draws us close to Allah,” as well as “That’s His Jihad. What’s yours?”

On Wednesday, the MTA banned all political, religious, and opinion ads from the transit system following a fierce debate among officials over the First Amendment.

It still allows public service announcements, as well as commercial and governmental ads.

The MTA had filed a letter in court last Friday that said their proposed ad policy had rendered the AFDI’s claims “moot.”

The AFDI fired back in a letter on Thursday that “its public service advertisement is an educational message,” and that the MTA’s claims were “legally deficient, if not frivolous.”

It then urged the judge to require the MTA to show the controversial ad immediately.

It’s new policy prohibits any ads that advocate a political, religious, moral, or social message.

It also bans any ads that encourage unsafe behavior in the transit system.

The MTA said Thursday it was reviewing the letter.

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Philip
Philip
8 years ago

If only there was a law that guaranteed freedom of speech as a right inherently bestowed upon us as Americans or something.
😉

rodulfo-tardo
rodulfo-tardo
8 years ago
Reply to  Philip

THERE IS YOU IDIOT IT’S CALLED THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AS IT WAS WRITTEN IT WAS THE MOST ADVANCED FORM OF GOVERNMENT EVER PUT ON PAPER // PARCHMENT: LOOK IT UP IT MAY TEACH YOU WHY POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, IS NOTHING BUT A REDEFINED CENSORSHIP LAW AIMED AT THOSE WHO NEVER HEARD OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION BUT ALLOWED THIS CRIMINAL HUSSEYNI OBAMA TO BETRAY THE U.S. THE WORLD AND THEN BEGAN AN ARAB SPRING OF GENOCIDE FOR FOUR [4] YEARS NOW THE PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY OF A “RIGHTEOUS” ETHNIC CLEANSING ORGANIZED, FUNDED AND TRAINED AND ARMED BY OBAMA, QATAR AND TURKEY AN EFFORT TO INSTALL A FASCIST GLOBAL CALIPHATE THAT WILL USE GENOCIDES THROUGHOUT WHAT WAS THE CIVILIZED WORLD, REALLY LOOK IT UP IT’S CALLED THE “U.S. CONSTITUTION” AND CHECK ALSO THE “BILL OF RIGHTS” YOU MAY HAVE BEEN IN A COMA WHEN THIS WAS TAUGHT IN SCHOOL OR MAYBE……………………

Philip
Philip
8 years ago
Reply to  rodulfo-tardo

Sounds to me like you’re implying the development of the U.S. Constitution is truly an “exceptional” achievement.
Refreshing.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  rodulfo-tardo

Rodulfo:
Uh, usually Disqus doesn’t like it if you use all caps…

Proud_to_be_American
Proud_to_be_American
8 years ago
Reply to  rodulfo-tardo

I believe he was being sarcastic or facetious.

Keshav
Keshav
8 years ago

I am actually still shocked about the news relating to UK that one of the dhimmi politician saying that he will criminalise Islamophobia which means that the muslims can do anything bomb your building,Riots in your streets,kill your people and the moment you speak against them you will be put in Jail..

Glad that we choose Modi as our prime minister here..

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  Keshav

Unfortunately the truth doesn’t fight for itself. We have to do the work, and it’s a bit like old toothpaste. You have to squeeze it out.

Keith
Keith
8 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

I agree with that, also I have noticed that a lot of Americans seem to believe that the First Amendment will fight for itself. I have come to this conclusion from quite a few comments repsonding to me something along the lines of that can never happen here because we have the First Amendment. I strongly believe if your First Amendment is not defended and protected it will disappear at the first chance Obama gets.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  Keith

I agree completely, and I also agree that the First Amendment is the keystone to democracy. The Soviet & Russian Constitutions are beautifully written, and guarantee many rights, including free speech. Yet outspoken critics of Russia are constantly harassed, jailed or liquidated. For them, it’s just a piece of paper.

After the collapse of the USSR, many people thought, including me, that the fight for liberty was won, and we could focus on other challenges. It was not so. I find myself locked in the same struggles that my grandparents and parents faced. They faced the World Wars, the Holocaust, the Korean War, Vietnam, and 100 million dead from communism.

And we still face creeping tyranny from misguided ideologues, constantly seeking to destroy freedom.

How the heck did we ever let the controversy over wedding cake bakeries become the great political issue of the day? As John Boehner said recently, “The world is on fire.”

Lol
Lol
8 years ago
Reply to  Keith

Your an idiot. Go back inside your bunker.

Keith
Keith
8 years ago
Reply to  Lol

What the heck are you on about? Stupid comments like yours do no one any good least of all yourself. Why am I an idiot. Do you really believe that if no one stands up for your much vaunted First Amendment it will still be there in 10 or 15 years time?

Yours is one of the stupid comments I was on about in my comment to which you have responded!!

Keith
Keith
8 years ago
Reply to  Keshav

I was not surprised I emailed my local Labour party (Ed Miliband is leader of the Labour party) with my concerns here is his reply. I have also previously emailed links to the Muslim Manifesto for the UK and the 1990 Cairo Declaration by the Organisation of Islamic Countries –

“Thank you for your email and I did look at the information you sent me previously and also at the Muslim Manifesto. Ed Miliband’s comments are in line with what Labour has been saying for some time. This is about tolerance and respect and taking action against those who deliberately promote hatred on religious grounds.

I understand the concerns raised and a criticism that this principle of tolerance is not always reciprocated towards Christians. We can only continue to work towards and pray for peace and mutual understanding.

I would be happy to discuss this with you at Merley next week.

Best wishes

Labour Candidate”

I have deleted the candidates name for privacy reasons (I don’t want to get sued). I wonder if I will be able to get a definition of Islamophobia from any of our local election candidates?

Keshav
Keshav
8 years ago
Reply to  Keith

I seriously don’t understand that these dhimmis including Politicians act like they have some sort of moral superiority over us because they think they are promoting ‘tolerance’ and ‘equality’ but if they are promoting equality then why did they specifically mentioned Islamophobia? Why not Buddhistphobia,Hinduphobia or Jewphobia? There are other minorities too in Britain why give special privileges to muslims only and then they talk about equality..

I am telling you the leftists are on a suicide mission and they want to drown all of us with them…They want the muslims to attack us and don’t even want us to utter a word against them so they can Peacefully kill Kaffirs one by one until no is left to speak or oppose against them!

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago

If you are caught in an ambush, fight your way through it. ~ US Marines

HOW ABOUT
A public service announcement, dished up just the way MTA likes it?
– The look and feel of the ad should be similar to other public service announcements (PSA) that commonly appear on the MTA.
– Use similar fonts, similar graphics, similar colors to other MTA PSAs
– The heading could read: Public Service Announcement
– Message Content:

Islamic terrorists have declared war on the USA

– This format may actually have have more impact than your other ads.
– And it would be hard to reject as a PSA
– It is factually correct
– It alerts the public to a clear and present danger
– New York has already been attacked several times
– The public has a right to know that Islamic terrorists have declared war on the USA.
– Your submission for ad approval could be supported by an inexpensive survey of the New York area that asks:
“Have Islamic terrorists declared war on the USA?”
– 38%* will say yes, 10%* will say no, 52%*will say they don’t know.
– *THESE PERCENTAGES ARE MY ESTIMATES. THEY MAY BE WRONG.*

-These are my estimates, but you can do a ‘mini-survey’ to get a feel for the numbers
– Don’t just ask your friends/relatives/colleagues. They are definitely not representative of the average New Yorker.
-But you can stop about 20 New Yorkers on the street in Times Square and ask them this question.
– If they won’t stop, stand beside the New York Fries outlet, and offer people a free coupon for fries if they will answer this one question.
– Do the survey yourself, or with someone else. You need to get a feel for people’s reactions.
– This ‘mini-survey’ will give you an idea about the percentages, the suitability of the wording, and the reaction of the interviewees to the question.
– I predict that many of the 20 people you ask will say that they didn’t know that Islamic terrorists had declared war on the USA. They will be shocked.
-And if you ask them if they think the question is important, they will emphatically say yes.

– How to keep the survey inexpensive. Contact reputable survey companies that run omnibus surveys in New York. There are many, but look for a brand-name that people will recognize. In an omnibus survey, they add your single question to a list of unrelated ones, sponsored by others. They could ask about tooth paste preferences, or favorite car colors. In an omnibus, you don’t pay for the whole survey, just for your single question.

– the MTA will try to block your PSA ad, but you can prove that the PSA is needed, because 62%* don’t know the correct answer.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Ad Mock-up. Click on the picture to expand it.

Betty4440
Betty4440
8 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

fix it so it can be made in to a bumper sticker. and I will make one

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  Betty4440

Betty:
Great Idea! I can do that for you, in hi-res, with a really mean-looking, hard-eyed terrorist. But we will have to check with Pamela to see what she wants. She may not want this, or she may want the bumper sticker to be congruent with any future ads she plans for MTA or elswhere. Can you contact her?

Betty4440
Betty4440
8 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

thanks. sure she will say it is ok.got the ok for some stuff she has to do on t shirts. Pam is one great. person.

RalphB
RalphB
8 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Creative ideas, perhaps, but first AFDI must insist that since the judge ordered the ads to be posted the ads must be posted. No one gets to make a judge’s order “moot” by unilaterally and “ex post facto” changing the wrongful policy they are guilty of applying in order to claim that no wrong was done after all — that’s legally absurd. The MTA board is not empowered to overturn a federal judge’s remedy against their own wrongful action by voting to do so! That is like saying that the public school boards ordered to desegregate by court order in the sixties could avoid the order by voting to make themselves “private academies” supported by public “merit scholarships” not subject to equal protection rules. We have a separation of powers in the U.S. Nobody gets to vote themselves out of a court order, only another judge can alter the ruling of the court.

If the MTA gets away with changing the policy for future cases, your ideas may help at the distant margins — but chances are the tyrants will get to pick and choose what is a “public service” and you will be effectively muzzed anyway. I don’t think the wise policy is to adapt one’s self to a tyranny or try to trick the tyrants into allowing you to say something. That would be like begging for crumbs off master’s table. Won’t they love that game! Instead, tyranny must be crushed.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  RalphB

Ralph B:
Good points. I leave it to Pamella about how to proceed. Since she wins these fights, and gets back her legal costs, more fighting could be worth it. These judgements create useful precedents for future free-speech actions.

She may also decide to do both. That is, challenge the effort by MTA to retroactively change theri policies, and also run a “Public Service Announcement” that is permitted under the new policies. I don’t know what lawyers call this, but in chess it’s a ‘forking maneuver’. No matter which way the opponent moves, they lose a chess piece.

Lay on, MacDuff!

Gerald
Gerald
8 years ago

O/T “As part of its contract with the district, the American Freedom Defense
Initiative has paid $10,000 for extra security — nearly $50 for each of about 200 tickets that have been purchased so far. That cost doesn’t include private security the group is employing.”
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/garland-mesquite/headlines/20150427-islam-debate-returns-to-garland-isds-culwell-center-with-muhammad-art-event.ece

Why are you being asked to fork out extra money for this event because no followers of humanistic religions are threatening you, only the barbaric followers of the inhumane religion of islam. The muslim community should bear the extra security cost – a reverse form of jizzaya.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago
Reply to  Gerald

Gerald:
I also notice that the Arab-American Institute has never invited Pamela Geller to speak. But they were eager to hear Susan Rice demand that Israel go back to the 1948 borders…

Mark I.
Mark I.
8 years ago

Keep up the Good Fight Pamela, we’re behind you 100%.

jimbo
jimbo
8 years ago

+nazi fascist left !! lets hope they are the first to get beheaded when the sh*t hits the fdan… in… oh, about… 10-20yrs !! a civil war is a comin’ and the stupid compliant dhimmi left are soooo stupid they cant see anything for the trees !!

Always On Watch
Always On Watch
8 years ago

Are they going to get away with this?

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
8 years ago

They will get away with whatever they can get away with. Stopping them will help them. Otherwise, future Political Science lectures will feature Pamela’s videos of the MTA, and how their abrogation of the Constitution led to years of internal strife inside the USA. In hindsight, the causes and effects will all seem transparent.

pdxnag
pdxnag
8 years ago

A “Muslim” that recoils in horror upon discovering the inherent and immutable horror of genuine Islam are free to declare their apostasy, at which point they cease to be Muslim. Any witting accomplice to promotion of Islamic horror deserves to be publicly declared vile and evil, Muslim and non-Muslim alike.

G P
G P
8 years ago

I salute you Pamela for standing up for your fellow citizens and freedom. I am not in the US but know if America and Britain fall to this fascism the rest of the West will too. You were so brave under assault at that university from those vulgarians especially the American dhimmmis and you kept your cool and floored them on every level especially intellectually. I loved the comment “…I give you this room”. What a wonderful riposte. I think you’re a modern day Joan of Arc

Yak
Yak
8 years ago
Reply to  G P

Let me guess you are in Israel. Wake up America cut the ties with this crappy piece of dirt

AllWomenMatter
AllWomenMatter
8 years ago

Thank you for standing up against the “politically correct” agenda.

Proud_to_be_American
Proud_to_be_American
8 years ago

Or as sir Winston Churchill said: “How
dreadful are the curses which Muhammadanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as
hydrophobia (Rabies) in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of
commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the
Prophet (piss be upon him) rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its
grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact
that in Muhammadan law every woman must belong to some man as his
absolute property – either as a child, a wife or a concubine – must
delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has
ceased to be a great power among men.”

Keith
Keith
8 years ago

Isn’t it interesting how people before WWII had a much clearer perspective about Islam than all of our leaders today, even though we now live in the information era. I think of it as the misinformation era.

Usuck
Usuck
8 years ago

Get the hell out of my country and move to crappy Israel. I can’t stand people like you making things worse. With your Jew agendas pretending like they have anything to do with America. You are as bad as Islamists only sneakier.

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