Labour’s Lily-Livered Lloyd Lies: Mounts Anti-Free Speech Campaign to Ban Geller and Spencer

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“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” Voltaire

Greater Manchester’s Police and Crime Commissioner Tony Lloyd, a man whose job is to protect and defend that rights of all people, is doing the bidding of fascists. The lily-livered Lloyd of the now notorious, pro-jihadist Labour party spouted this pathetic bile earlier today:

Labour-MP-Tony-Lloyd-shares-a-happy-moment-with-Ismail-Haniyeh-of-Hamas
Above: Terror loving Tony Lloyd sucking up to Hamas top dog Khaled Meshaal

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“The two individuals that the EDL have invited from the US
to our country are nothing short of hate preachers – every bit as bad
as those who use the name of Islam to propagate hatred. 

“I believe passionately in freedom of speech. Despite the fact the
EDL stand for everything I am opposed to, I have defended their right to
express themselves – and that’s despite the cost of policing their
rallies. But this is a step too far.

“I hate the idea of turning these two people into martyrs by having
them banned,
but this is an extraordinary situation and I am asking the
Home Secretary to use her extraordinary powers to deny these extremists
entry into our country.

“Every citizen should be proud that this country is known around the
world for its values of openness and respec
t. But we cannot take that
for granted and those who spout hatred jeopardise the liberty we love in
the UK
.”

It is Tony Lloyd who is jeopardizing liberty by seeking to suppress speech. It is Tony Lloyd who is spreading lies and hate. What action has Tony Lloyd taken to stop the spread of jihadist rhetoric and sharia enforcement? I challenge Lloyd to quote my work, my books, my articles. I am consistent in my stand for freedom and individual rights.

How is suppressing free speech good for the community? This is the same community that refused to pursue the rape claims of young infidel girls being gang-raped and sex-trafficked by Muslim gangs. This poor, misused bloke has his priorities all upside down and wrong side up.

Rochdale, in Greater Manchester, was the site of scores of Muslim gangs sex trafficking in non-Muslim tween girls. Hundreds of 11- and 12-year-old girls. Stolen. Drugged. Raped. Bought and sold by scores of Muslim men. “These men were enjoying the sex slaves allowed by the Qur’an (men may
enjoy ‘what your right hands own,’ 4:3) and Islamic law from among unbelieving women” (here). These girls went to law enforcement repeatedly. Law enforcement ignored and abandoned them for years for fear of being “racist” (despite the fact tat Islam is not a race).

Lily-livered Lloyd is on a jihad against free speech. I challenge Lloyd to quote any of my work, my articles, my books, my speeches in support of his libel and smear.

Lloyd’s position of’ Police and Crime Commissioner is a newly created office (November 2012) — an elected representative charged with “securing
efficient and effective policing of a police area.”
Mind you, this silly fob was elected by only a handful of people. Nobody came out to vote.  You see, folks? That’s what you get when you don’t show up at the polls.

And this tool is going to be in charge of our security? Sheesh. Needless to say, our security costs have risen dramatically. You can help. Make your tax deductible contribution via paypal.com (here) to [email protected].

And the editor of the Manchester Gazette should be fired. This piece is vile propaganda. I have never said that Obama was a secret Muslim. I have never said
“all Muslims as extremists.” I have never said those  “murdered by Anders Breivik in Norway were
not innocent victims.” This is vicious Goebbels-style lies.

Lies., lies, lies, lies.

“Tony Lloyd’s plea: Don’t let hate preachers into UK “ The Manchester Gazette, by Chief Editor

Greater Manchester’s Police and Crime Commissioner Tony Lloyd is backing calls to deny two preachers of hate entry to the UK.

The extreme right-wing group English Defence League (EDL) has invited
two fascists to speak in Woolwich this weekend – at the site of the
brutal murder of Drummer Lee Rigby.

The EDL has invited Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer from the USA to
speak at the rally. Geller and Spencer’s revolting views are notorious
in the USA, where they have been roundly condemned.

Tony said: “The two individuals that the EDL have invited from the US
to our country are nothing short of hate preachers – every bit as bad
as those who use the name of Islam to propagate hatred.

“I believe passionately in freedom of speech. Despite the fact the
EDL stand for everything I am opposed to, I have defended their right to
express themselves – and that’s despite the cost of policing their
rallies. But this is a step too far.

“I hate the idea of turning these two people into martyrs by having
them banned, but this is an extraordinary situation and I am asking the
Home Secretary to use her extraordinary powers to deny these extremists
entry into our country.

“Every citizen should be proud that this country is known around the
world for its values of openness and respect. But we cannot take that
for granted and those who spout hatred jeopardise the liberty we love in
the UK.”

Geller and Spencer have a long track record of preaching hate. From
denying the Bosnian genocide to believing that Barack Obama is a secret
Muslim, they and the organisations they represent have sought to cast
all Muslims as extremists who have a secret plot to take over Europe.
They even said the children murdered by Anders Breivik in Norway were
not innocent victims.

“Geller and Spencer are dangerous, they only want to come to stir up
hatred and incite violence. Let’s make a stand together and say – you
are not welcome in our proud land,”
Tony added.

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Dan
Dan
10 years ago

Under British libel laws you might have a great lawsuit. You ought to check into it.
These people can’t go around making up stories about your statements and views.
Think about a lawsuit. You’d win millions in damages if what they say proves to be bullshit.

fern
fern
10 years ago

Omg…………

Ivan Winters
Ivan Winters
10 years ago

Lloyd is Police & Crime Commissioner for Gtr Manchester. The proposed event is in Woolwich. Woolwich is in London so it is not in Lloyd’s brief and he is acting ultra vires saying who the Home Secretary should bar from an event in London. London has a different policing control structure from the rest of the country. The political head of policing in London is the Mayor, Boris Johnson.

twitter.com/armarosnews
twitter.com/armarosnews
10 years ago

Its funny to listen to every fascist censor starting his/her justification by saying:
” I believe passionately in free speech”

Amit
Amit
10 years ago

Pamela I urge to hire a british lawyer and file a defamation case. THis will lead to a debate – which one way or the other is good and it would prove to people that they cant get away talking anything nonsense against you.
I am a poor guy, but I promise I will send 200 USD by paypal, if you do this 🙂
Amit
– A hindu from India

fern
fern
10 years ago

Oh dear! Why am I not surprised.
habibi at Harrys Place did an article in 2011:
Tony Lloyd MP, Baroness Falkner and Hamas
http://hurryupharry.org/2011/07/26/tony-lloyd-mp-baroness-falkner-and-hamas/

patti
patti
10 years ago

SUE HIM. Don’t waste a single second. Just sue the guy.

fern
fern
10 years ago

Omg, more pics….Wow, this man is something else! The pits. His words should mean nothing to any decent person. See the pics below – get the puke bucket at the handy.
http://hurryupharry.org/2012/10/22/beware-of-far-right-candidates-in-police-commissioner-elections/

InfidelForLife
InfidelForLife
10 years ago

Funny…. I now get “access restricted” on that link. Maybe Big Zero blocked access after some frantic calls from London?

Alain
Alain
10 years ago

Lloyd stated that “Geller and Spencer are dangerous”, but in reality he was stating that facts and the truth are dangerous. Lloyd and his kind should actually be tried for treason against the British people. What a disgusting pathethic toad!

InfidelForLife
InfidelForLife
10 years ago

“The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists.” ~ Sir Winston Churchill
Hear this guy scream that he’s all for freedom and free speech. And see him, in reality, act as a fascist.

fern
fern
10 years ago

Tony Lloyd MP, Chair of the Parliamentary Labour Party, With Haniyeh, In a Hamas Scarf
[snip]
Tony Lloyd MP is wearing a scarf which depicts, as Palestine, a map which shows not just Gaza and the West Bank, but Israel itself.
This is Hamas’ message to Jews.
This is what the Chair of the Parliamentary Labour Party is supporting.

hurryupharry.org/2011/08/04/tony-lloyd-mp-leader-of-the-parliamentary-labour-party-with-haniyeh-in-a-hamas-scarf/

fern
fern
10 years ago

Try another browser Infidelforlife – or try again

Kenny
Kenny
10 years ago

So, this man says that he “passionately believes in free speech”. Really? Unless that free speech says something he doesn’t like. This reminds me of a comment made when Geert Wilders was on (a show), trial; “I think he should go to jail, because I don’t like what he says”, how ‘s that for fascism?
I agree wholeheartedly with Patti, and others. Sue him!

Larry S.
Larry S.
10 years ago

those who spout hatred jeopardise the liberty we love in the UK.
More baseless, unsubstantiated venom aimed at Pamela and Robert. I have a few times on this site asked people who make such charges to substantiate them- the responses range from an enlightening “if you can’t see it I can’t explain to to you” to noting that Pamela refers to people who do certain things as “savages” (oh the horror). Unless Lloyd provides satisfactory documentation for his venomous charge, I will put him him into the category of self-promoting liars who see no further than their own immediate self interest.
Truly Orwell spoke well when he noted, “The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.” The true haters are those who lie about those upholding truth. Tony Lloyd is a prime example of a man who sells out the grand civilization of which he is, supposedly, a steward.

fern
fern
10 years ago


There was an interesting article on the Harry’s Place blog last week, reminding us about the visit made by Tony Lloyd to Hamas last year. It is a must-read. At the time, Mr Lloyd was the Chair of the Parliamentary Labour Party and MP for Manchester Central. Last month, he stood down from his seat and is standing as Labour’s candidate to be Police & Crime Commissioner in Greater Manchester.
I find it extraordinary that a man who seeks to lead Greater Manchester Police and whose responsibilities will doubtless include counter-terrorism is happy to hob-nob with the likes of Hamas. The Government continue to consider that Hamas is committed to terrorism. So does the European Union, the United States and Canada. Doubtless Jewish residents here in Salford are particularly well aware of the Hamas record on anti-semetism and Holocaust denial.
Hamas are simply not acceptable company for a credible Police & Crime Commissioner to keep.

http://www.iainlindley.co.uk/2012/11/02/tony-lloyd-and-hamas/
Exactly!

fern
fern
10 years ago

His twitter a/c : twitter DOT com/tony4gtrmcr
He’s not tweeted since Dec
Tony Lloyd ‏@tony4gtrmcr
Gaza Strip ‘not liveable’ by 2020 Those who visit know that for many it’s barely liveable now
8:03 AM – 28 Aug 12
What a pile of drivel

Linda Rivera
Linda Rivera
10 years ago

Disgusting that this rabid Jew-hater, Hamas lover, Briton-hater has NO concern about Muslim imams and other imams preaching HATE and VIOLENCE against infidel non-Muslims. But is vehemently opposed to Pamela and Robert speaking the TRUTH about Islam.

Stephen Gash SIOE England
Stephen Gash SIOE England
10 years ago

Please note, Manchester has a statue of Abraham Lincoln with this inscription around the plynth:-
‘By supporting the union under President Lincoln at a time when there was an economic blockade of the southern states the Lancashire cotton workers were denied access to raw cotton which caused considerable unemployment throughout the cotton industry’.
This is what Manchester now has become.
The desecration of St Johns church Longsight Manchester (converted into a mosque)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCavMzBja4
In Manchester a Muslims man can shout “All Jewish children must die” at mothers and kids leaving a Jewish school without being imprisoned.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/why-is-that-man-shouting-at-you-mummy-taxi-865830

Thomas Pellow
Thomas Pellow
10 years ago

More on U.K Islamic jihad threat today:-
“Muslim group backed by hate preacher Anjem Choudary called IED ‘mocks Britain’s war dead’ with its name”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2347987/Muslim-group-backed-hate-preacher-Anjem-Choudary-called-IED-mocks-Britain-s-war-dead.html

Thomas Pellow
Thomas Pellow
10 years ago

Yes. Lloyd is on £100,000 salary, and has staff of 40.

Radegunda
Radegunda
10 years ago

“Every citizen should be proud that this country is known around the world for its values of openness and respect.”
Sorry, Bud – the UK is not everywhere known for “openness.” It’s known (by those in the know) to be intolerant of speech that is disliked by protected classes of people, particularly Muslims and politicians.

twitter.com/armarosnews
twitter.com/armarosnews
10 years ago
twitter.com/armarosnews
twitter.com/armarosnews
10 years ago

There are some seriously libelous statements in Tony’s letter. Especially according to the weird laws of the UK.
Sue the fuckers….if for nothing else but for having them incur costs so that they’ll have less to play with when propagating their dhimmi lies

American Defense League
American Defense League
10 years ago

It is time for the Brits to get behind the English Defense League, they have the leaders to get the job done.

Radegunda
Radegunda
10 years ago

Wouldn’t he have to prove that what he says is not bovine merde? I thought the burden of proof was on the defendant in a libel suit.

gerard
gerard
10 years ago

Impressive Dhimmitude. This guy could make Hitler and Stalin sound good.
It’s always projection is it not?
The whistle blowers are vilified with the very things they are trying to warn people against.

gerard
gerard
10 years ago

“those who spout hatred jeopardise the liberty we love in the UK.”
And that’s precisely what Geller and Spencer will be speaking about you dumb *&^£!!

Polymath
Polymath
10 years ago

Today, there is a report in The Algemeiner (?sp.) on the speech by Prince Charles on the occasion of Sir Jonathan Sacks, the head of the Jewish Community in Britain, stepping down after 22 years. In it, he expressed his grave concern about the anti-Semitism in his country- and the lack of toleration amongst religions. England has been characterized as a tolerant Nation .( I am paraphrasing.)
What is , also, so amazing, Pamela, is the amount of reaction you and Robert are igniting! It’s as if no one knows you are online on a daily basis, saying what you say in your speeches. I guess, as long as their op-eds. etc. are not given over to Arabic, there is a modicum of hope. So, who , specifically, is able to get to all these various people? What is he threatening? Why don’t you and Robert write an op-ed, yourselves, for a UK paper?

fern
fern
10 years ago

Nick Lowles of the fascist thuggery org, Hope not Hate, in cahoots with Tony Lyloyd, maliciously stoops to new low.
Mentally challenged, Nick Lowles of Hope not Hate, on twitter, accuses Tommy Robinson of, quote: “EDL leader is using the tragic case of a young girl with cancer as cover for his hate march. Shame on him”
Tommy Robinson of the EDL is trying to incorporate in his charity walk, sponsorship to raise funds to help a very young child go to the USA for urgent life-saving medical treatment for cancer (cost of treatment in the USA is approx £250,000). The UK Government say they can’t afford little Amelia’s treatment, yet the UK Government never have a problem dishing out billions of £’s of taxpayers hard earned cash to far-off third world countries, which many of us are well aware, much of the funding never reaches the intended, the poor and starving, but instead, lines the coffers of corrupt leaders.
The UK Government obviously picks and chooses who they want to help when it comes to life saving hospital/surgery/treatment at the cost of the taxpayer?
The most recent one that comes to mind is the plight of Pakistani girl, Malala Yousafzai, a young girl who was barbarically shot in the head by the savage Taliban.
The British and Pakistani authorities subsequently arranged for her to be flown from Islamabad to England, courtesy of an air ambulance provided by the United Arab Emirates, for specialist treatment.
Mr Haque said, quote: “Malala will now receive specialist medical care in an NHS hospital. Our thoughts remain with Malala and her family at this difficult time. end quote
In a statement, the Pakistani army said: “The panel of doctors recommended that Malala be shifted abroad to a UK centre which has the capability to provide integrated care to children who have sustained severe injury.
Thankfully, Malala Yousafzai is well on the mend. She is now attending a school in the UK, as her and her family are all now living in the UK – Yet no life saving funds to help little Amelia?
So, what exactly is the problem with Nick Lowles (besides the blindingly obvious)?

Gleaner1
Gleaner1
10 years ago

Vote Labour – get Jihad.
This terror blind stooge, like the rest fears the truth.
Come, and let the fires of free speach BE his downfall.

fern
fern
10 years ago

Did anyone bother to look closely at the scarf that Hamas supporter, ex Labour MP, now Police Commission in Manchester, UK, Mr. Tony Lloyd, is wearing?
The description for this scarf:
Features picture of Dome of the Rock on one side and Palestine map on the reverse with fringe on the ends in the same color as Palestinian flag.
Note, their ‘Palestine Map’ happens to include Israel. Get it?

James
James
10 years ago

I just heard on the BBC 10 pm news that Pamela and Robert Have been banned from the UK by the Home Secretary Theresa May , while parasites like Anjem Choudrey are free to spout their filth and hatred for this country and it’s people 24/7 !
Well done Mrs May you half witted Dhimmi ! You just killed free speech and liberty STONE DEAD ! You have ensured the Islamic Republic of Britain.
God save us all !

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