Pigs Fly at Haaretz: Pamela Geller Op-Ed Published

Dialogue with Muslims won't quell Islamic Jew-hatred Anti-Islamist blogger responds to accusations she publishes 'dishonest hate literature about Muslims and Islam.' By Pamela Geller in Haaretz, April 30

Dylan Kaplan appeals for harmony between Jews and Muslims while claiming that Robert Spencer and I “publish dishonest hate literature about Muslims and Islam.” Kaplan has high hopes for his project of building friendships, claiming that “if we could make friends we would be bringing security” to Israelis and “Palestinians.”

Why are we exhorted to initiate dialogue with Muslims, while there’s never talk of the Islamic Jew-hatred that has motivated 1,400 years of Muslim persecution of the Jews?

The root cause of the ongoing war against Israel is Islamic Jew-hatred: Quranic chapter and verse served up as a daily diet in the “Palestinian” media. The same Islamic Jew-hatred that fueled the alliance between Hitler and the leader of the Muslim world, the Mufti of Jerusalem. “Making friends” won’t eradicate that hate.

Where is Kaplan’s discussion of the 1,000,000 Jews who were expelled from Muslim lands in 1948, when Israel was established? We hear much about how Muslims were supposedly expelled from Israel, but they were told to leave by their leaders, who said they could come back after Israel was destroyed. How is that the Jews’ fault?

How does it make Spencer and me haters if we discuss the root causes of the enmity that many Muslims feel for Jews?

In my opinion, some left-wing Jews exalt the Taqiyya spread by Muslim practitioners of interfaith discussions, calling for civil dialogue with the adherents of this ideology, while smearing us for telling the truth. Scapegoating truth tellers is unconscionable. Kaplan is deceiving himself if he thinks he will ultimately escape the purveyors of the Big Lie he is currently serving with such enthusiasm.

You wouldn't believe what a struggle it was to get this tiny 250-word piece finalized. Haaretz has long been known to be to the hard left of the NY Times. They define anti-Israel bias. Painful, considering that they are one of Israel's largest newspapers. On April 9th, Haaretz ran a strikingly moronic oped piece by a young, clueless Jewish student. I, of course, asked to respond to the gratuitous attack by an ill-informed, manipulated youth. I wrote to the editor in chief, Aluf Benn, immediately, asking if Haaretz would publish a rebuttal piece I had written, defending our work for human rights and freedom. After a couple of days of silence, one of his editors got back to me, asking if I would slash my 800-word piece to 250 words (which I did). So began the tortuous exchange between Haaretz editors and myself. What followed was a flurry of emails in which the Haaretz editor asked me to pull this word and that word, take out my last sentence and substitute a different one, and so forth. It took weeks to get 250 lousy words published, but the young clueless asshat got 1,170 words in which to make a fool out of himself.

 So anal and insipid were the emails, they were comic — here is just a sample:

On Apr 15, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Esther Solomon wrote:

Dear Ms Geller,

Thank you for being in touch regarding a recent article on the Haaretz.com website.

We will be in touch with you soon about this matter.

Best wishes

Esther Solomon
Opinion Editor, Haaretz.com

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Dear Esther,

Thank you. I ask only for the opportunity to defend myself against an unprovoked attack on your oped pages.

Yours in liberty,
Pamela Geller

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Dear Ms Geller,

Thank you for being in touch. We would like to give you the opportunity to respond to the opinion article in question, but we would ask if you could make your response briefer, to a maximum of 250 words. As is usual, we would have to reserve the right to edit the response.

We hope with this we can close this issue amicably.

Best wishes

Esther Solomon
Opinion Editor, Haaretz.com

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Esther,

Here is the short edit you requested. Please advise when you plan to schedule it for publication.

Yours in liberty,
Pamela Geller

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Just out of curiosity, Esther, I was wondering how many iterations Dylan Kaplan's essay went through before it was published. Did you subject it to the same rigorous sentence-by-sentence line editing to which you have subjected my reply? Or in his case did ideological consideration override editorial ones?

Thanks for any information you can provide.

Yours in liberty,
Pamela Geller

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On 27 Apr 2012, at 01:59, "Pamela Geller" <[email protected]> wrote:

Ms. Esther,

What is happening? I haven't heard from you since the last revise. Did it run already?

Yours in liberty,
Pamela

On Apr 23, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Pamela Geller wrote:

Ms. Esther,

I made the changes you wanted and added in a proposed last sentence

Dylan Kaplan appeals for harmony between Jews and Muslims while claiming that Robert Spencer and I “publish dishonest hate literature about Muslims and Islam.” Kaplan has high hopes for his project of building friendships, claiming that “if we could make friends we would be bringing security” to Israelis and “Palestinians.”
 
Why are we exhorted to initiate dialogue with Muslims, while there’s never talk of the Islamic Jew-hatred that has motivated 1,400 years of Muslim persecution of the Jews?
 
The root cause of the ongoing war against Israel is Islamic Jew-hatred: Qur’anic chapter and verse served up as a daily diet on “Palestinian” television channels. The same Islamic Jew-hatred that fueled the alliance between Hitler and the leader of the Muslim world, the Mufti of Jerusalem. “Making friends” won’t eradicate that hate.
 
Where is Kaplan’s discussion of the 1,000,000 Jews who were expelled from Muslim lands in 1948, when Israel was established? We hear much about Muslims were supposedly expelled from Israel, but they were told to leave by their leaders, who said they could come back after Israel was destroyed. How is that the Jews’ fault?
 
How does it make Spencer and me haters if we discuss the root causes of the enmity that many Muslims feel for Jews?
 
This left-wing Jewish young man exalts the taqiyya spread by Muslim practitioners of interfaith discussions, calling for civil dialogue with the adherents of a genocidal ideology, while smearing us for telling the truth. Scapegoating truth tellers is unconscionable. Kaplan is deceiving himself if he thinks he will ultimately escape the purveyors of the Big Lie he is currently serving with such enthusiasm.

Yours in liberty,
Pamela Geller

From: Esther Solomon <[email protected]>
Date: April 23, 2012 5:04:56 AM EDT
To: Pamela Geller <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Response

Dear Ms Geller,
 
A few points:
-          As I mentioned in my previous email (19th April), we would like to change "Palestinian television" to "Palestinian media", and for you to change the description of "kid" to another word.
-          Could you send me another final sentence that is clearer and less abstract/generalized?
 
Best wishes
 
Esther Solomon
Opinion Editor, Haaretz.com

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From: Esther Solomon
Date: April 27, 2012 1:01:40 AM EDT
To: Pamela Geller
Subject: Re: Response

Dear Ms Geller,
It is a long public holiday weekend now (until Sunday). I will be back at work then to finalize the arrangements for your response.
Best wishes
Esther Solomon
Opinion Editor, Haaretz.com

Here is an excerpt of the sophomoric claptrap that Haaretz ran (all 1, 170 words):

Repairing the broken hearts of both Jews and Muslims Dylan Kaplan, Haaretz

The remedy for healing the broken heart of “scorned lovers” is trying again to love. The truth is that it is in the best interest of Israel and the Jewish community to have friends, and the only way to make friends is to talk and get to know one another.

[….]

The alternative path is that of ignorance and hate. We need to oppose Islamophobes. Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are two notable examples who are often interviewed on major news networks, and who publish dishonest hate literature about Muslims and Islam. They are the faces of bigotry and hatred and pose grave dangers to race relations and peace, I told the congregation.

Islamophobes embody dishonesty. While they call my mentor Dr. Ahmed a “stealth Jihadist” they conveniently forget that Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel says Dr. Ahmed “needs to be heard”, that world-renowned Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks says Dr. Ahmed is “one of the great religious sages of our time”, and that even the Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren says Dr. Ahmed has done “more than any single individual I know to improve the relationship between Muslims and Jews in this country and around the world.”

This uneducated tool bashes …… Spencer and me. As if reporting on jihad and Islamic Jew-hatred is the problem. "Scorned lovers?" Has he read In Ishmael's House: A History of Jews in Muslim Lands? Does he have any education on the oppression, humiliation, and persecution of the Jews in Muslim lands over the past 1,400 years?

Here is my original, unedited rebuttal:

Pamela Geller
Peace, Love and Understanding for Jihadis, Not for Freedom Fighters

Dylan Kaplan, a student at American University, has published in Haaretz an appeal for harmony between Jews and Muslims. With touching naivete, he calls for “creating vitally important friendships, increasing understanding and laying the foundations for peace,” and yet at the same time defames Robert Spencer and me by charging that we “publish dishonest hate literature about Muslims and Islam.” He says he even spoke these falsehoods in an address at the Har Shalom congregation in Potomac, Maryland in February. How does it increase understanding to spread such falsehoods?

Kaplan is a researcher and assistant to Ambassador Akbar Ahmed, an internationally influential “moderate Muslim.” Kaplan is upset because I called Ahmed a “stealth jihadist” after he blamed the "radicalization" of New York jihad bomb plotter Jose Pimentel on "Islamophobia," and even issued a veiled threat, saying: “It is well to keep in mind that about 50 percent of Americans in poll after poll confirm what we found in the field: they believe Islam is incompatible with being American. The matter is both urgent and serious. Unless immediate steps are taken, we may well see more Jose Pimentels in the future.”

So according to Akbar Ahmed we must regard Islam as compatible with being American, or else: if we don’t, more Muslims like Jose Pimentel will try to murder Americans. But as Robert Spencer pointed out, “the reason why so many Americans view Islam as incompatible with being American is because Muslims so easily turn to violence and murder when their wishes are denied, and because of veiled threats like this one.” But Ahmed says nothing about that. He offers no recourse to non-Muslims who find Islamic law’s denial of the freedom of speech and the equality of rights of all people before the law to be a matter of concern.

This kind of analysis, combined with Ahmed’s use of the Muslim Brotherhood-invented concept of “Islamophobia,” a term designed to intimidate non-Muslims into dropping all resistance to the worldwide jihad and Islamic supremacism, casts serious doubts upon his claims of moderation. But instead of addressing any of this, Kaplan merely quotes prominent people praising Ahmed – as if they could not be taken in by him.

Kaplan demonstrates similar naivete throughout his piece. He recounts a Muslim friend’s reaction to his attempt to build bridges: “One of my Muslim friends said getting to know me had ‘completely changed (her) view of Jews, of Israel’, and that she ‘never had thought it was possible to have so much in common with a Jew.’” But Kaplan never asks himself why his Muslim friend’s expectations were so low of a Jew. The depth and breadth of Islamic anti-Semitism, rooted in the Qur’an and Muhammad’s example, don’t seem to even enter his mind as a consideration, or trouble him in the slightest.

Nevertheless, despite ignoring this elephant in the room, Kaplan has high hopes for his project of building friendships: “And if we could make friends we would be bringing security to Israelis, security to Palestinians, and we may finally be able to achieve Israeli-Palestinian peace so that the Jews and Muslims of the world can finally get to know one another. And we could finally prosper together.”

Why are we compelled constantly to initiate dialogue and reach out to Muslims, while there is no talk whatsoever of the Islamic Jew-hatred that has motivated 1,400 years of Muslim persecution of the Jews?

Where likewise is Kaplan’s discussion of the 1,000,000 Jews who were expelled from Muslim lands in 1948, when the State of Israel was established? We hear a great deal about the Muslims were supposedly expelled from Israel, but in reality, no Muslims were actually expelled from Israel: they were told to leave by their Muslim leaders who said they could come back after Israel was destroyed. How is that the Jews’ fault?

And how does it make Robert Spencer and me haters if we discuss the root causes of the enmity that all too many Muslims feel for Jews?

This mushy-brained left-wing Jewish kid exalts the taqiyya spread by the Muslim practitioners of interfaith discussions, and touts as much-needed civil dialogue with the adherents of a genocidal ideology — and yet he smears, defames, insults and lies about Spencer and me.

 What happened to Mr. Peace, Love and Dhimmitude when it came to discussing our work defending the freedom of speech and legal equality against Islamic supremacism? Who tossed the marshmallows and extinguished the campfire while this pisher was singing kumbaya?

 Dylan Kaplan clearly doesn’t know any better. Haaretz should have.

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truth will set us free

11 years ago

Dr Akbar Ahmed a former Pakistani govt official is a tool…a plant…a sheep in wolf’s clothing who is part of a growing –and dangerous– network of Pakistanis who have infiltrated Washington at the highest levels. They are a cunning, suave bunch who speak to the non-Muslims in a language most are desperate to hear and believe (the apologists and appeasers amongst us). He has managed to coopt many with his guile. Follow the money and who has paid for his chair at AU.

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KrazyKafir

11 years ago

The Left, they think like children.

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Pedophile prohet muhammed

11 years ago

Ha’aretz, is afflicted by Stockholm Syndrome and self-hatred.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

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KrazyKafir

11 years ago

Notice how the Leftists clearly wanted to whitewash the Palestinians “Television” to “media”. Why? Because TV would describe more accurately that this message of hating Jews is communicated in the mainstream. Media could be anything, like pamphlets being pass out in a back alley. See how the mind of the complicit self-loather works?

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ApolloSpeaks

11 years ago

MR. KAPLAN
The problem with Moslem-Jewish relations is Islam and has always been Islam. Jews want harmony and have always wanted it with believers. But Moslems want victory because of their stupid, insane supremacy complex inspired by their mass murdering prophet and the anti-semitic, genocidal Koran. Take the supremacy out of Islam which is what Spencer and Geller are dedicated to doing and like them you’ll do some real good in this world.

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alyn21

11 years ago

There is no real solution to the problem of stupidity except to keep repeating the truth over and over again.
Since most Liberal/Leftists are not very bright, they might possibly respond to a repetition of the same points (much like children learning their ABCs).
So we will keep on stating the truth and we will try to keep the points simple so that we might look forward to the day when the simple minds who support the muslim fascists might have an awakening of some brain matter allowing them to finally understand
what we have been trying to tell them.

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alyn21

11 years ago

The Nazis used to say that if you tell a lie enough times people will start to believe it.
The big question in my mind is, Does the same principal apply when it comes to telling the truth?

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Infidel

11 years ago

Mohammedanism is identical to Nazism
But when discussing our Quranic enemy, its important to recognize that it wasn’t just Nazism. Yes, Haj Amin al-Husseiny designed the Shari’ah-compliant death camps at Auschwitz and Nablus. And yes, the Mohammedan of “Palestine” bear direct moral responsibility for every Nazi crime.
But remember that the wicked “Palestinians” also allied with Soviet Russia. Most of the Quranic leadership in Ram’allah and Gaza were educated in Moscow because of the close alliance they developed during the Cold War. The Mohammedan of “Palestine” bear direct moral responsibility for every Communist crime.
Remember also the wicked “Palestinians” alliance with the Jihad. We’ll never forget the morning of 9/11, when in the Shari’ah-adherent colonies of “East Jerusalem” the Koranimals celebrated. Or when the leading Mohammedan theologian Sheikh bin Laden died and Gaza went into mourning. The Mohammedan of “Palestine” bear direct moral responsibility for every Jihadi crime.
Remember also that the wicked “Palestinians” are intimately allied with Ba’athism. What a sick irony that so-called Israeli arabs – Mohammedan parasites – use their freedom to march in support of Bashar al-Assad and Saddam Hussein. The Mohammedan of “Palestine” bear direct moral responsibility for every Ba’athist crime.
In short – the “Palestinians” and their sympathizers represent absolute Evil. And you really have to doubt the sanity of anyone who feel sympathy for such a wicked culture.

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Mama Grizzly

11 years ago

A picture is worth a thousand words.
In this case, a video is worth 1,000,000.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbBWju8HPG4

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Obamermustgo

11 years ago

Please…shorter articles and moar pics of momma geller.

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Kufar Dawg

11 years ago

@Mama Grizzly
Youtube has yanked your video.

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Bruce O'H.

11 years ago

It always comes down to this…If the Palestinians laid down their weapons, there would be peace. If the Israeli’s laid down their weapons, there would be genocide.

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rachel ann

11 years ago

Most of the time I agree with you Pamela,but not this time. I don’t believe that the root cause of the war between Israel and the Palestinians is Islamic Jew hatred. Although I certainly think it is a part of it.
I think the real main cause is sin and greed of the Palestinian and the Arab people. If I am not mistaken,most Palestinians were supposedly Christians,or at least claimed to be in 1948,yet they hated Israelis and Jews just as much then as they do now when the overwhelming majority are Muslim.
And some of the most cruel terrorists claimed to be Palestinian Christians like Sirhan Sirhan who murdered RFK,George Habash the founder of the PFLP,who was responsible for the airline hijackings of the late 60s and the hijacking of the Achille Lauro,as well as many other cruel terror attacks in Israel,and Naytefh Hawarth,the founder of the DFLP who was responsible for the murder of the schoolchildren in Maalot.

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carpediadem

11 years ago

Kaplan was probably trying to save his job.
In fact I wouldln’t be surprised if he was told what to write by his boss.

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Kufar Dawg

11 years ago

@Rachel Ann
Are you seriously suggesting that Hamas and Fatah are run by Christians in the 21st century? Christians are the persecuted minority in Gaza now — as they are throughout the Mid-East and N. Africa in the here and now. Lebanon might once have been a Christian country in the Mid-East, but it isn’t anymore. I’d further argue that Israel’s backing of the Christian militia in Lebanon worked to their advantage and security.

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judi

11 years ago

Rachel Ann – your comment regarding the fact that Islamic Jew hatred is NOT the cause of the war between Israel and the Palestinians is ridiculous. In islam they are taught to hate Jews and Israel from the age of 3. It is in their daily curiculem, both at kindergarten and school. The koran is specific about it.

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Attilashrugs

11 years ago

Esther: is she not Vashti in disguise?

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Rachel Ann

11 years ago

No I am not suggesting that Hamas and Fatah are run by Christians in the 21st century. If that was the impression I gave I apoligize. I agree the overwhelming majority of the Arabs or Palestinians are Muslim today,and that they teach their youth to hate Jews,but it hasn’t always been like this.
Read what Brigette Gabriel said about growing up as a Christian in Lebanon in the sixties and from the way she talked the hatred she was taught against Israel sounded just as bad as anything the Muslims teach their children. Almost everytime I read a message from a Palestinian Christian on a messageboard it’s sounds as every bit as hostile towards Israel as what any Arab Muslim would say.

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Kufar Dawg

11 years ago

@Rachel Ann
I’ve heard from Egyptian Coptic Christians that they have NO CHOICE but to be virulently anti-Israel in Egypt — at least publicly. Let’s face it, islamofascist states are not democracies w/freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of the press. Publicly supporting Israel while being a non-muslim in a muslo-fascist state is probably a good way to get yourself on the short list to getting murdered.
Iranian Jews don’t publicly support Israel from within the borders of Iranistan, indeed, some of them have vilified it and no one should have to wonder why they do.

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BethesdaDog

11 years ago

The more I read on these pages, and the more I reflect on the smear campaign against Atlas from everybody from the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ADL, to the international media, it becomes increasingly clear that Pamela is one of the world’s greatest human rights activists–and also the most maligned.
It is shameful that organizations which purport to be champions of human rights should attack the work Pamela and Spencer do, and implicitly defend the extremism and hate which they seek to expose and counteract.
This is the work that organizations like SPLC and ADL should be doing–but won’t, simply because it happens to be perpetrated by a “religion” instead of a secular ideology like Nazism.
I’ve had the same experience of this infantile Dylan Kaplan (what a name!) with Muslims, but I draw a different lesson. I know that there is something intrinsic in the very religion that, if taken literally, and followed devoutly, is very dangerous, intolerant and violent. I do think, based on my personal experience, that there are individual Muslims who seem to have moved away from this mentality. At least, I hope so. Unlike this gullible Kaplan, I know that you can’t generalize and say that because you meet one or a few tolerant, moderate Muslims, that there are not a great many who are dangerous, hate-filled fanatics who, especially in the Middle East, are in the majority.

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BethesdaDog

11 years ago

Mama Grizzly’s video was pulled because Glen Beck TV (apparently) claimed copyright. It might be available on Glen Beck’s site.

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dekorasyon

11 years ago

Dekorasyon fikirleri, ve Dekorasyon hakkında aradığınızı Mutfak Dekorasyon siteleri, Banyo Dekorasyon siteleri yada daha fazlası için http://www.dekorasyon-tadilat.com tıklayın ve kaliteli bir dekorasyon sitelerine ulaşın. Dekorasyon nedir ve kimler tarafından yapılmalı. Bu yüzden kaliteli ve profesör bir kadroya sahibiz kaliteli bir yaşam için tıkla ve ara.

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dekorasyon

11 years ago

Dekorasyon fikirleri, ve Dekorasyon hakkında aradığınızı Mutfak Dekorasyon siteleri, Banyo Dekorasyon siteleri yada daha fazlası için http://www.dekorasyon-tadilat.com tıklayın ve kaliteli bir dekorasyon sitelerine ulaşın. Dekorasyon nedir ve kimler tarafından yapılmalı. Bu yüzden kaliteli ve profesör bir kadroya sahibiz kaliteli bir yaşam için tıkla ve ara.

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