Virginia: Muslim owner demands disabled man with service dog leave restaurant

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After I posted on the sharia compliance at Wegman's and their special halal checkout here, an Atlas reader shared this experience with a "tolerant" religion of peacenik. Remember, there is no golden rule under Islam.

Get this one Pam[ela],

I have a disability which requires that I use a service dog. His name is Ray and he helps to counterbalance, alert and guide me. Under Federal Law, The Americans with Disabilites Act of 1990, a disabled person with their service dog must be allowed public accomodation and admittance. Among such places include Airplanes, Public Transportation, Businesses which serve the gerneral public, restaurants, etc.

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One evening two friends, myself and my service dog Ray entered a kabob restaurant in Virginia. Within seconds a man, apparantly who was the owner, made a scene about my service dog and asked me to leave. I was fairly certain he was Pakistani Muslim. There were other people in the restaurant who apparantly were also Muslim because of their coverings. Anyhow, I told him about the ADA, which he knew nothing about, and I told him that I was refusing to leave the restaurant and demanded that we be served the food we ordered. He was obviously very, very unhappy about it, yet he did eventually very reluctantly comply.

If he had insisted that my dog and I leave and refused to serve us in his restaurant, I would have filed a Human Relations Complaint of Discrimination or a ADA complaint with the US Dept. of Justice. If that would ever happens I wonder if this Islamization has gone that far that it would limit me from entering a Muslim owned or opperated establishment which serves the public? It's sad to see our society begin sliding down the slippery slope of making these kinds of self serving accomodations. The people who are in favor of these kinds of accomodations as being in the friendly spirit of Freedom and Liberty are missing the point that our strong tendancies for "cultural" and "religious" acceptance are really being used to undermine our very freedoms and liberties in a very clandestine manner.

The very essence of the Judeo-Christian belief is based upon "Loving our neighbors," but all to frequently forgotten is another teaching of our sacred writings is that if we know that someone is going to kill us "We are "obliged" to kill them before they can kill us. In the context of this teaching, "obliged is stronger than being commanded." We are not commanded to murder someone because of their belief system or because they are different, but if they are going to kill us, self defense is an imperative. I believe as many of our fellow Americans would like to believe, is that the majority of Muslims here in our country are not about Jihad; HOWEVER, a belief system which commands its believers to deceive and lie to non-adherants about their murderous intentions is most certainly one that should be closely examined.
Respectfully submitted,
Scott Sylte

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Samantha
Samantha
12 years ago

“I believe as many of our fellow Americans would like to believe, is that the majority of Muslims here in our country are not about Jihad”
“HOWEVER, a belief system which commands its believers to deceive and lie to non-adherants about their murderous intentions is most certainly one that should be closely examined.”
Good letter. However, maybe some of you can help me out. While examining this particular belief system, which allows for their lying and deception towards me, I find it hard to trust this statement: “the majority of Muslims here in our country are not about Jihad.” Where is the proof in this? Just because at present, they are relatively quiet, do we delude ourselves by believing this to be true?

Patti
Patti
12 years ago

Sue him Scott, you have witnesses,, SUE HIM> This is blatant discrimination.

Cate
Cate
12 years ago

Scott – I’m so glad you insisted on being served. It is not optional. It is the law with regard to ADA. I hope you didn’t get the “special sauce” on your meal. It’s one of those things I always worry about. If you got the least bit ill, I’d make a HUGE fuss about it.

Scott Sylte
Scott Sylte
12 years ago

Dear Pam,
Thank you for your comments.
Dear Samantha,
You are exactly on point. I do not feel that unchecked trust should be extended. What I’m trying to say is that many Americans feel that the majority of Muslims here are not about jihad. That doesn’t necessarily mean that statement is true. For me it’s probably because most of the time I try to look for the goodness in others and in doing so it certainly can be easy to overlook the sinister evil and not see it at all. I’m tending to feel that this is what we are experiencing.
Dear Patti,
I have experienced discrimination many times with my service dogs. On one occassion I was shoved off a Metro bus by its driver who then falsely accused me of assaulting him. In a few minutes the police arrived and seven officers brutally beat me unconscious. As I was being beaten others on the bus were taking photos and videos with their cell phones. Other officers boarded the bus and began confiscating the phones. Mysteriously the video of the event recorded by the camera on the bus itself was “lost.” I spent a tremendous amount of time and money seeking justice. I filed a Complaint of Discrimination against WMATA. I did nothing against the police out of fear of retaliation. Sometimes one really has to choose one’s battles. Regarding the owner of the kabob restaurant, there are many other ways this possibly could have turned out, that was my reasoning for standing up to him to see if he really was going to push the issue. Then I would have taken legal remedy. The way media works is this could have also blown up in my face. I could have been accused of intentionally provoking some upstanding honest Muslem merchant trying to make a living, and because a lawsuit happened it very well could have put him out of business if it were successful. I’ve seen this kind of vilification of innocent victims happen all too frequently. So one really has to weigh things out and also have some good inside media and legal support.
Dear Cate,
No, I did not get any “special sauce” on my kabob to my knowledge, neither did I get sick. We quietly went about eating our meal and promptly left the premises. I was at no time confrontational, loud, impolite or acting in any way that could have been misconstrued as improper conduct.
There are many other stories I could tell about experiences with Muslims living in the Washington DC Metro Area. If any are pertinant to the news letter I’ll share them.
Again, thank you all for your comments and reading Pam’s Newsletter
Scott Sylte

Choi
Choi
12 years ago

@Scott: Thanks for sharing this with us.
I can assure you that Ray is a better living being than that SOB will ever be,and CLEANER.
I admire your STANDING for YOUR RIGHTS,but It’s not SMART to force someone to feed you with food they cook and CAN tamper with.
Hopefully you had no Ill Effects from that meal.

Drew458
Drew458
12 years ago

Service dogs get in, everywhere, always. That’s the law.
Service ponies and their carts … maybe not so much.
Hey, maybe we could start a movement. Wouldn’t it be just grand if every RoPMA had a line of customers outside the door every morning, all with service dogs? Or one every hour or so, just to keep the place haram all day long?

Max
Max
12 years ago

This would be a very easy sting operation. This would have to be done at dozens of Muslim establishments like what was done to ACORN to document reality.
Have a couple friends already inside with Flip cams or iPhones, enter the restaurant with a few friends and a real service dog that is working, and document the incident with video. Then, have your friends call 911 as the event unfolds. We need documentation like this over and over and over….

bb
bb
12 years ago

That is cool that this guy stood up for his rights and won. I was thinking that it woudln’t even be worth the aggravation to go through all of that for a kabob. I think I would have been scared they would spit in the food after all of that.
This guy had alot of courage to stand up for his rights. People usually act very intimidated by opposition and just want to take the easy way out of everything. I think I would have been so aggravated after all the commotion that I wouldn’t have even been able to choke down the food that they served me.
I have tried some of these restaurants and a couple had just bad food and one with okay/good food has very scary customers and seems kind of hardcore something or other. The clerks are nice some of them, the others just keep quiet. I feel like you need to go there with an attitude of American/Christian jihad if you go there.
To me, service is part of the dining/shopping experience so if the clerks are rude or disrespectful in a serious way, I don’t bother going back usually. If they have a great/unique product and maybe the owner is nice, I would go back.

Betty Pierce
Betty Pierce
12 years ago

Scott you and your friends are lucky. me I will never go into or buy any thing from a muslim I want to keep AMERICANS in business not some foreigner and I want no part of their food. they are nasty have you ever watched you tube how they kill cows and sheep. I don’t want no part of it and the pray to allah so the meat is tainted it is in the BIBLE not to pray to idols and that is what they do. GOD BLESS AMERICA

Florida Infidel
Florida Infidel
12 years ago

Dear Mr. Sylte, thank you for your story, and you were right to stand up for your rights! However, that said, may I respectfully offer the following: don’t ever knowingly do business with a Muslim. Money you spend there ends up financing global jihad, as all Muslims pay “zakat”, a large part of which goes to finance jihadist activity worldwide. So, please, never, ever do business with a Muslim, for anything. You can always find someone else; someone better. Secondly, and I am amazed that no one has mentioned this so far, Muslims are infamous for their cowardly ways of hurting and killing people, and poisoning is one of their favorites. I am amazed they did not poison you or tamper with your food in some way. Never accept and eat food from someone who has been openly hostile to you; it could be very dangerous! Last but not least, even though you were eventually grudgingly served, you were very clearly discriminated against and publicly humiliated. I would find a great lawyer who would take the case on a contingency basis (you don’t pay a dime up front; they take a significant portion of your winnings as payment)and sue the socks off the owner or owners of the Muslim restaurant. Make it that they have to close their doors and go out of business. Think of it: Muslims sue Americans left and right over NOTHING, but do we sue them when they discriminate against us? My answer to that is, not nearly as often as we should! Fight fire with fire!
Thank you again for telling your story, and I wish many blessings for you and your wonderful dog Ray.

alyn21
alyn21
12 years ago

I am surprised that the restaurant owner gave in. But you can be sure that this issue of service dogs will not go away until a law is passed that specifically makes it illegal to discriminate against people who have such animals.
Any so-called religion that hates dogs is disgusting.

southwood
southwood
12 years ago

@Betty Pierce.
Right on, sister. Don’t use their shops, restaurants or even WASP places that serve halal. Americans boycott Islamic goods and services WHEREVER you find them.

BethesdaDog
BethesdaDog
12 years ago

I’d be very interested in knowing what happened with the complaint filed against WMATA. With what agency did you file a complaint? When did this happen?
I live in the D.C. area, and don’t remember reading about this in the news. Of course, I cancelled my subscription to the Washington Post ages ago. And I no longer have cable, since Comcast is a rapacious monopoly that owns MSNBC, apparently.
Have you applied for MetroAccess, the parantransit system for the disabled? It seems to work pretty well for most people. I have a good friend who helped set up the Police Review Board for the D.C. Metropolitan Police. I’d like to find out more about this case.
The ADA and the various other disability laws, including the Rehabilitation Act and the ADA Amendments Act of 2008 were all signed by Republican presidents. Many Republican senators, congressmen and Republican civil rights advocates, such as former EEOC chairman, the late Evan Kemp, championed this legislation, which drew great bi-partisan support.
It’s really supposed to be a full participation and full employment act for the disabled, a worthy goal that conservatives and liberals can support.
Some people have trouble in D.C. with Muslim cabdrivers and service dogs.
These people are going to have to learn to play by our rules.
Just to be fair, I’ve had a number of Muslim doctors, nurses, technicians, etc., in several D.C. area hospitals when admitted as an inpatient, and they’ve all been extremely professional, competent, nice, and unbiased in their treatment of somebody they knew was Jewish (from my chart). Some specialists I continue to see as an outpatient. Most were Iranians, by the way. I saw one specialist this past week whose grandfather was executed by the Shah. Needless to say, these people are loyal Americans (from everything I can see), they are not anti-semitic (some work in partnerships with Jewish physicians), and the Iranians hated the Shah and they hate the Mullahs. They want a democratic Iran friendly to the U.S.
Obviously, not all Muslims in America are like this.

Joe
Joe
12 years ago

Being a jew or Christian and being treated by a muslim doctor is like a Black person being treated by an MD wearing a KKK hood.
The koran DEMANDs we infidels be converted, treated as subservient animals, or killed. (READ IT).
PS – the next time you have to take your service dog to the “kabob” house, be sure and first feed your pooch a huge meal laced with ex-lax.

Joy
Joy
12 years ago

I have to vehemently disagree with Joe and totally agree with BethesdaDog: Middle Eastern and South Asian doctors here (in the CA Desert – and there are a huge number!) are unfailingly polite, competent and respectful. My guess is that they are not all muslim (or maybe not even majority muslim!), but of Christian and Hindu background and extraction. Most are first generation and speak excellent (albeit accented) English, dress VERY nicely (nattily, in fact!) and just do NOT seem in the least like the retrogressive inbreds that we see in the news and in the many video clips Atlas (and BNI) post. Obviously for economic and other civilized reasons, overseas medical personnel (doctors in particular), escaping socialized and sub-standard medical conditions in their home countries, enjoy the lives, medical practices and general respect they engender and, in fact, earn in the USA too much to even consider returning to the hell-holes from which many of them have emigrated.

Wallabee
Wallabee
12 years ago

The very essence of the Judeo-Christian belief is based upon “Loving our neighbors,” but all to frequently forgotten is another teaching of our sacred writings is that if we know that someone is going to kill us “We are “obliged” to kill them before they can kill us.
I have no quarrel with anything you did, other than perhaps its best not to spend your money in a Muslim establishment, esp. since you don’t know what you are supporting when you do so.
But I would be very interested in knowing what Judeo-Christian “sacred writings” you are referring to here, that says Christians are “obliged” to kill anyone.
This is in direct contradiction not only to the New Testament teachings of Jesus and the Apostles, but the history of the early Church, which was indeed a Church of Martyrdom. Those early Christians allowed themselves to be killed in order to spread the Gospel. If there was any such obligation for Christians to “kill … before they can kill us” early Church history would have been radically different, to say the least.
And in fact, Jesus himself violated your “obligation to kill” by explicitly commanding his disciples to put away their swords and allowing himself to be arrested and executed.
There have been frequent debates throughout church history regarding the limits of “turn the other cheek” vs self defense. But the concept of being “obliged” to kill anyone for any reason is way outside the parameters of those discussions.
If what you really refer to is some specific Jewish tradition, that is another matter, which I don’t claim to be expert on. But you referred to “Judeo-Christian” and there is no such obligation to kill anyone within Christian teachings or scriptures.

Mama Grizzly
Mama Grizzly
12 years ago

Many if not most of such establishments are for money laundering and for front groups to gather unnoticed by the authorities. That’s why they are so cagey and watchful. They have no real interest in serving food.
Just sayin’.
I also would be careful eating from such places. They will spit on your food before serving or worse, contaminate with human waste.
Again, these cafes are bogus.

BethesdaDog
BethesdaDog
12 years ago

Joe,
Your comments are ridiculous. They are also bigoted. I don’t know how religious these medical providers were–or if they were all Muslims, since many Iranians in this country include Christians, Bahai, and Zoroastrians. I remember chatting with a radiology tech who was a Zoroastrian from Iran and he walked over and talked to a Muslim woman tech who was from Iran, and they hugged each other. The Muslim woman certainly didn’t act like the Zoroastrian colleague was a despised infidel. They were both very friendly, and very nice. At first, I was a bit apprehensive when I had a major hospital stay and I was assigned a hospitalist who was born in Tehran. I don’t know her religion, although her last name is often one associated with Iranian Jews. Still, I suspect she was Muslim. She was great. I really liked her a lot, both as a person and as a doctor.
When I attended the rally supporting Israel during the 2006 Lebanese War, there was a young fellow holding a big sign that said “True Muslims Support Israel.” He was wearing the jersey from one of the historically Jewish fraternities, AEPi. Most of his fraternity brothers also attending were Jewish. They were from the chapter at the Umiversity of Maryland Baltimore County campus. We talked briefly, he said he was from Iran by way of Pakistan. I think he said he was Sunni. When they started to sing Hatikvah at the end of the program, he sang loudly, and he knew the words better than I did.
I’ve had a number of long talks with Muslims living in the U.S. These are more educated, sophisticated people, unlike the Pakistani owning the kabob place. One fellow insists that the violent radicals you see are a fraction. That’s not to say that there are not different degrees of adherence to the radical beliefs among Muslims in the Muslim countries or the west.
I’ve been in a condo of an older Iranian couple, and they had a beautiful Labrador Retriever and a fully stocked wine cabinet. Still, her husband (a retired gastroenterologist) would not eat pork as a rule, but he sometimes violated the rule. They were Shia Muslims.
The biggest problem I see is that there do seem to be some moderates but they are not willing to or are unable to condemn and control the extremists. I just can’t believe that all Muslims, especially in the U.S., are extremists and violence prone.
Still, there are a lot of dangers out there, and we’re right to keep our eyes on them. Pamela and Robert Spencer do a great job.

John
John
12 years ago

I’m um… Allergic to dogs… Does anyone know how to get a service pig?

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