Muslim Consultants Lied to Park Service About Flight 911 Islamic Crescent Memorial

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Let the record show that there were patriots and freedom lovers who opposed and fought for years against an Islamic crescent pointing towards Mecca as a "memorial" to the American heroes who brought down the last plane taken over by islamic terrorists. We know what it is.

Those brave souls on Flight 93 saved the Capitol. Clearly, an Islamic crescent memorial is a seditious insult to their heroic memory. Atlas has been very vocal against this insult for years, Crescent-petitionbordered and many have been fighting this battle for quite some time. The leaders of the opposition, Tom Burnett Sr. (whose son Tom was one of those warriors who wrestled the plane away from the allahu akbar-screaming Muslims) and Alec Rawls, are on the vanguard of the fight.

The bottom line is, why a crescent? Why not a flag? Or a monument to the group who managed to wrest control of the aircraft away from the Muslim terrrists? A crescent pointing to Mecca? As if that weren't bad enough, the dhimmi Park Service asked Muslim consultants and Islamic scholars for an honest consult? They can't be that clueless; they must be complicit.

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Shocka, the Muslims lied. Hey, they're supposed to. It is taqiyya, it's in the koran — lie to advance Islam.

Muslim consultants LIED to Park Service Error Theory

The Park Service enlisted three outside consultants to assess whether the Crescent of Embrace memorial to Flight 93 really can be seen as a giant mihrab: the Mecca-direction indicator around which every mosque is built. All three consultants, including two Islamic scholars, were blatantly and provably dishonest.

Consultant #1 (details below) confirmed to the Park Service that the giant crescent (now called a broken circle) does indeed point almost exactly at Mecca, then when asked about it by the press, denied that there is any such thing as the direction to Mecca (insisting that "you can face any direction to face Mecca").

Consultant #2, a professor of Islamic architecture at MIT, lied about one of the most familiar of all Islamic doctrines, claiming that a legitimate mihrab must point exactly at Mecca. (The original Crescent of Embrace pointed less than 2° north of Mecca. The broken-circle "redesign" points less than 3° south of Mecca. Both highly accurate by Islamic standards.)

Consultant #3, a professor of sharia law at Indiana University (!), came up with an almost comically dishonest rationale for dismissing concern about the giant Mecca-oriented crescent: don't worry, no one has ever seen a mihrab anywhere near this BIG before. Not so funny is the Park Service's eagerness to embrace such a transparently ludicrous excuse.

The details are documented in a large advertisement that Alec Rawls and Tom Burnett Sr. are running this week in Somerset Pennsylvania as President Obama and the national press arrive in town for the 10th anniversary of 9/11.

The press has so far been unwilling to check even the most basic facts about the memorial, like whether the giant crescent really does point to Mecca (takes about 2 minutes). Maybe charges that the Park Service and its consultants are telling easily verifiable lies will be more up their alley.

That's the hope, but a strong push might also make the difference. If you want to help, here are email addresses for the new Park Superintendent Keith Newlin and for a few Pennsylvania newspapers. You can write your own letter, or just copy the first four paragraphs above, and tell them that you want these charges checked!

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After a brief primer on the giant Islamic crescent-and-star flag that the Park Service is building on the Flight 93 crash site, the ad exposes the three blatantly dishonest consultants that the Park Service invited to please pull the wool over their eyes:

Academic charlatan calculates the direction to Mecca, then tells the press that there is no such thing as the direction to Mecca

Here's a novel way to deny that the giant crescent points to Mecca. Just deny that there is any such thing as the direction to Mecca. This from the Park Service's first consultant, as reported by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

Daniel Griffith, a geospatial information sciences professor at the University of Texas at Dallas, said anything can point toward Mecca, because the earth is round.

That is not an errant paraphrase. Griffith said the same thing to Tribune Democrat reporter Kirk Swauger:

He said you can face anywhere to face Mecca.

So when Muslims face Mecca for prayer, they are just deluding themselves? They could actually face any old direction and still be facing Mecca? Is there really no such thing as a direction on planet earth?

Griffith was lying of course, and the Park Service knew it, because the first thing Griffith's report on the orientation of the Crescent of Embrace does is calculate the direction from Shanksville to Mecca:

I computed an azimuth value from the Flight 93 crater site to Mecca of roughly 55.20°.

"Azimuth" means direction, in degrees clockwise from north. Muslims calculate the direction to Mecca by the "great circle" or "shortest distance" method ("as the crow flies," curving only in the over-the-horizon direction), and this is the method Griffith used. He also accepted that the Crescent in the original design drawings points a mere .62° away from Mecca (about a degree closer than it actually points, but no matter).

In short, Griffith confirmed the Mecca-orientation of the giant crescent, then denied it to the public, but the Park Service knew the truth, because they had Griffith's actual report. Thus when the Park Service repeated Griffith's denials that the giant crescent points to Mecca, they too were knowingly hiding the truth from the public. One example is the previous Park Superintendent Joanne Hanley. Asked directly whether the giant crescent points to Mecca she denied it, telling the Post Gazette that:

The only thing that orients the memorial is the crash site.

The Mecca-orientation of the giant crescent is clear evidence of an enemy plot to re-hijack Flight 93. The American people need to know the facts, while these public figures have worked desperately to keep the facts from them.

Muslim consultant from MIT lied about one of the most familiar of all Islamic doctrines, claiming Mecca-orientation must be exact

After Griffith verified that the crescent/broken-circle does indeed point almost exactly at Mecca, the Park Service asked two Islamic scholars whether there was any Islamic significance to this giant Mecca-oriented crescent. Could it by any chance be seen as a giant mihrab? After all, the archetypical mihrab IS crescent shaped.

The Park Service's second consultant, a professor of Islamic and mosque architecture at M.I.T. named Nasser Rabbat, assured the Park Service that because the crescent does not point exactly at Mecca it cannot be seen as a mihrab:

Mihrab orientation is either correct or not. It cannot be off by some degrees.

That is a bald lie, and every practicing Muslim knows it. For most of Islam's 1400 year history far-flung Muslims had no accurate way to determine the direction to Mecca. Thus it developed as a matter of religious principle that what matters is intent to face Mecca, with no requirement for precision in actually facing Mecca. Two or three degrees off is highly precise by Islamic standards. Many of the world's most famous mihrabs face 20, 30, 40 or more degrees away from Mecca and it matters not one whit.

Every practicing Muslim knows that they only need to face very roughly towards Mecca for prayer because they are constantly availing themselves of this allowance when, five times a day, they seek out walls that they can pray towards that will leave them facing roughly towards Mecca. Not having to face exactly at Mecca for prayer is one of the most familiar of all Islamic doctrines.

Saudi religious authorities confirm: mihrab orientation does NOT have to be
exact

There's more ….much more here.

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prestigio
prestigio
12 years ago

moslems do not
tell the truth
they worship
the father of lies

Zilla
Zilla
12 years ago

Question, and pardon my language, but WHY THE FUCK did we consult MUSLIMS for a memorial to the people who are dead because of islam? What the hell is wrong with people?

6th Texas Cavalry
6th Texas Cavalry
12 years ago

…To Zilla…..your comments are right on….whoever at the NPS authorized aa muslim consultation needs to be FIRED!!!

Heather
Heather
12 years ago

Amen Zilla!! Why in the hell do these people have any kind of say in anything to do with 9/11?

Zilla
Zilla
12 years ago

IMHO they HAD their say when they attacked us and we should have shut them up permanently afterwards instead of bowing down to kiss their filthy raised mohamadeen asses. We were killed by the thousands by MUSLIMS for ISLAM and yet even ten years later we let those bastards dictate the terms of how we talk about it and even how we remember our murdered dead (who were killed by MUSLIMS for islam)! We still have islamoblows from BOTH parties proclaiming that ‘islam is a religion of peace’. And we give actual air time to CAIR who IN THEIR OWN WORDS said THIS about their intentions:
‎”Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”
– Omar Ahmad, chairman and cofounder of CAIR – 1998
Enough enough enough enough! Screw them.
No Quarter!

grungyoldvan
grungyoldvan
12 years ago

They were directed to treat islam as not the problem..
hence why we point at Perry and see the second coming of Bush

grungyoldvan
grungyoldvan
12 years ago

The freedom tower is a minaret, replacing the bizarro mecca that the WTC court was.. the crescent is a ‘mosque’.. the Pentagon installed a ‘prayer room’..
The burlington coat factory is just a distraction while those muslim friendly victory monuments were being established…
yes the freedom tower is a minaret..

aprilnovember811
aprilnovember811
12 years ago

Why the need for Muslim consultants? This should have been trashed when the questions first arose. This has to be stopped. We have some really screwed up people in this country. Throw this idea out.

vlparker
vlparker
12 years ago

Let’s get rid of the dhimmi jackasses running this country. We need to elect conservatives for the next 40 years to put this country right. Dhimmi jackasses.
Since Mecca is about 2/3rds of the way to the other side of the earth, in order to really be facing Mecca you almost have to be lying prone on the ground. That is the same direction as hell.

TheFreeHeart
TheFreeHeart
12 years ago

Amen..First rule of war KNOW YOUR ENEMY! True Americans know who they are but rigged elections put a Non-natural born American,muzzie born in kenya in the white house so what’s next? Clean House and clean out our country! If you didn’t come in the front door your gone too!

Brad
Brad
12 years ago

How much do we spend on our militaries? It’s time we put a billion dollars in to spreading “The Third Jihad” (DVD) and “The Third Choice” by Mark Durie. That dvd should be given to every public servant, every academic and every journalist.
Are they going to accuse Zuhdi Jasser of being Islamophobic? Most people won’t read a book but they might watch a video. (We need to get bulk orders of these as they are taking steps to reduce freedom of speech on the Internet.)
If after a person watches the video they might be interested in The Third Choice. Pamela called the book a block buster. It is the best introduction to Islam that I’ve seen. It clearly explains the important doctrines of taqqiya, fitna and abrogation in Islam. It also explains why some Christians and Jews in Islamic lands praise Islam. (Such people will never be believed by those who read that book.). The Third Choice is persuasive and introduces the subject gently and scholarly without being too difficult.
This is an ideological war. The sooner people wake up to that the better. Clearly we can’t rely on our governments, we have to fight the ideological war ourselves.

jimmmmybrady
jimmmmybrady
12 years ago

They are in EVERY strata of US Gov.Ask yourself,how is it that for MILLENIA in the Hebrew language the word ALAH means CURSE???God warned His people from the beginning.Islam is fulfilling ALL of the New Testament descriptions of the Antichrist cult…..Coincidence????????

sean
sean
12 years ago

It may not be PC to mention this, but human sacrifice to Allah is an integral part of Islam. As a prominent Muslim theologian said, “There is no liquid loved by Allah more than the liquid of blood. Whether you do it by the lamb, or you do it by a Serb, you do it by a Jew, you do it by any enemies of Allah, that drop of blood is very dear.”
The symbolism of the horns of the crescent pointing to Mecca is to dedicate the blood of the dead kuffars to Allah, the horned moon god.
P.S. Muslims are liars.

Kufar Dawg
Kufar Dawg
12 years ago

Why are my tax dollars going to support islamonazism? When did I agree to begin paying jizya?
Maybe all us infidels/kuffars should stop paying taxes. If our corrupt politicians want to support
islamonazism let them do it out of their own pockets…

Teresamerica
Teresamerica
12 years ago

This is just a thought but is there any way that the GOP could defund this Memorial unless they change the Memorial from a crescent to either a circle, a flag, or something else?

ExPreacherMan
ExPreacherMan
12 years ago

And the New York Times OpEd is telling Americans, ‘Don’t Fear Islamic Law in America,’ The NYT is going Islamic faster that the BO Administration.. almost an impossibility.
Read it here:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/40074
In Jesus Christ eternally, Jack

Person of the Book
Person of the Book
12 years ago

The Burlington Coat Factory is NOT a distraction. Here’s why:
If you draw a qibla line (the orientation line from the mosque to Mecca) starting at the WTC site, IT PASSES RIGHT THROUGH THE BURLINGTON COAT FACTORY!
Don’t believe me? Then go to http://www.qiblalocator.com, and enter the zip code for the WTC (10006). Zoom in as much as possible. Move the map around slightly, and you will find that with the starting point of the line on the WTC property, the line passes right through the Burlington Coat Factory.
I do not believe that a devout muslim would have overlooked a detail that important in islam. My gut feeling is that they bought the Burlington Coat Factory so that they can pray at the WTC site, facing the Burlington Coat Factory, to know that they are facing Mecca.
Another giant outdoor mosque, if you ask me.

Bohemond_1069
Bohemond_1069
12 years ago

Why a crescent? Why not a cross or a mogen David? Who designed this monstrosity? The “Crescent of Embrace”? What is being embraced? Islam? What other religion has a crescent as its symbol? This monument to islamic imperialism ought to be torn down as it violates the principles of separation of religion and state.

Choi
Choi
12 years ago

Hmmmm,
The House ought to be able to”whip something up”

Lou
Lou
12 years ago

If it IS pointing to Mecca, a more appropriate symbol would be achieved by completing the alleged “broken circle” and adding a 5 pointed star in the centre!

Nat's daughter
Nat's daughter
12 years ago

This is beyond sickening! Beyond infuriating! If there is a fucking crescent anywhere near this site, local Americans should camp out in protest until it’s removed. What have we entered, the Twilight zone??? This can’t be for real but I’m sure it is ’cause you can’t make this shit up! And to top off the day, I just returned from the grocery store where a fully burka’d slave woman and her brood of offspring were shopping. I was VERY close to telling her to get with the program or get the hell out of my country!

Zilla
Zilla
12 years ago

Yeah, if they weren’t such gutless pansies, they probably could. Remember, it was a Republican who has us kissing muslim asses after 9/11, and the “front runner” for the GOP nomination is a hardcore islamoblow. Much of the GOP is as clueless and spineless as the DNC and they STILL proclaim that “islam is a religion of peace”.

Zilla
Zilla
12 years ago

If it IS pointing towards mecca, the most appropriate symbol would be that of an American hand with it’s middle finger raised to those who killed us by the thousands on September 11, 2001.

Uncle Vladdi
Uncle Vladdi
12 years ago

The park services Public SERVANTS lied to their employers (us). Lying is the most basic form of theft – it’s the theft of the Truth. Theft is a crime; thus, they are not only cowardly appeasers, but also complicit enablers, willing accessories to moslem crimes.
BTW – WHO is PAYING for this memorial to islamic (near-)victory? DO THEY HAVE SPECIAL GRANT FUNDS FROM THE SAUDOMITES to draw upoon for it?
As Ron Matthias said about this issue: “The moral equivalent would be to consult Nazis in the design of a Holocaust memorial and have them suggest lining up Jewish headstones in the shape of a Swastika. It’s amazing how many westerners are still blind to Taqiyya.”
😉

grungyoldvan
grungyoldvan
12 years ago

oh shi…
thanks for filling me in..

grungyoldvan
grungyoldvan
12 years ago

anyone know a good clear cut company?
lets see greenpeace defend the crescent on camera..

Lou
Lou
12 years ago

I was thinking the pentagram as a symbolic protection against evil pointing to where evil breeds. However, a giant middle finger says it all!!

whatdemocracy
whatdemocracy
12 years ago

democracy is generous and willing to see all people getting a fair go: so we allowed islam to take root in our nations because we were ignorant about the reality of islam.but today information about islam abounds.anybody born and bred in an occidental democracy who stands up for islam is a traitior in the true sense of the word… a gallery of powerful islamophil traitors would be appreciated.

Paladion
Paladion
12 years ago

Muslims are willing to build a monument so to honor the memory of their owns heroe-martyrs felt on Ground Zero N.Y.C, and also at Shakesville, Pa, on date 9/11.
Our President Barack Obama endorsed the idea, so, there is nothing wrong or suspicious behind it.
All these means that Americans shouldn’t protest when someone insult their intelligence, feelings and patriotism, because it has been sanctioned jus divinum from above.

J. Guidry, Battlefield, MO.
J. Guidry, Battlefield, MO.
12 years ago

WOW!!!!! Is it time yet? Time to form up and fight back against this muzzie takeover of our nation? Opinions and discussion aside, we stand by while the muzzies and their idiot supporters continue to infiltrate our way of life and our institutions.
When will we stand up and say NO MORE? I suppose it will take a change in the White House and Congress before it can happen. IF an election is allowed to happen in 2012. I have my doubts.

prestigio
prestigio
12 years ago

look dhimmi
their hero martyrs
ARE MURDERERS

Kufar Dawg
Kufar Dawg
12 years ago

We should document all politicians and companies that collaborate w/islamonazism. Make sure no one votes for the former, and boycott all goods and services by the latter. Hit the MF’ers where they live.

karlanglin651@hotmail.com
12 years ago

Muslims lying to infidels?
i’m shocked, shocked!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARNOLD CARL TAPP
ARNOLD CARL TAPP
12 years ago

GUIDRY , YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. SEARCH FOR THE ARTICLE : ” FORMER SPECIAL INVESTIGATORS OF
F.B.I. EXPOSE THE TRUTH ABOUT MUSLIM INFILTRATION INTO OUR GOVERNMENT ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP “.
TO LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAMIC AGENDA TO CONTROL AND DOMINATE AMERICA, LISTEN TO CONVERTED
MUISLIM,S AND PEOPLE WHO SURVIVED THE TERROR, MURDER, DESTRUCTION AND THREAT OF SHARIAH LAW.
WATCH 50 + VIDEOS AT : http://www.youtube.com/MAKAHAYAN

Zeanon
Zeanon
12 years ago

The red maples at this “memorial” may fail to thrive.

Paladion
Paladion
12 years ago

Sorry Prestigio. I agree with you. You failed to interpret the double meaning of my message. Sorry again.

rhonda Król
rhonda Król
12 years ago

I would appreciate the dates being given for the changes in the design to now be one of a circle. After all the good work of the protestors, let’s give them some credit for the NEW design, thankfully a circle. Pamela, don’t leave out the important fact that the victory has been won with the changes….
R. Król, Poland

Allotta Tepes
Allotta Tepes
12 years ago

I don’t understand why they would even let moslems have anything to do with the design in the first place. Sickening.

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