Pamela Geller is the author of “Stop the Islamization of America: A Practical Guide to the Resistance.” She’s also the executive director of the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI) and Stop Islamization of America (SIOA).
What went into writing your book?
My work as a human rights activist is dedicated to freedom of speech, freedom of conscience and individual rights. The book was reflective of the work I’d been doing to ensure the separation of mosque and state. I absolutely have no problem with whatever religion, I don’t care if you worship a stone, just don’t stone me with it. We’re seeing increasing in the United States, the chipping away of basic freedoms, the encroaching Shariah, whether it’s in freedom of speech under the guise of hate speech laws when in fact they’re not hate speech laws, it’s the Shariah. It’s blasphemy under Islamic law you cannot criticize or insult Islam. In Muslim countries, blasphemy is punishable by death. They execute non-Muslims for speaking candidly about Islam. Here in America, if you speak candidly about the global jihad, about the ethnic cleansing of non-Muslims in Muslim countries, about the slaughter of non-Muslims in Nigeria, Indonesia, Thailand, Baghdad, Bali, Egypt, then you are called a racist when in fact Islam is not a race. It is an infringement on our free speech.
The book is dedicated to pointing out where American law and Islamic law conflict. The “mosquing” of the workplace, imposing Muslim prayer time on union contracts, forcing non-Muslims to lengthen their day, the lawsuits against Wal-Mart and Target by cashiers that refuse to handle meat that is not Halal, the lawsuits against Disney because they want to wear the hijab or the niqab or the chador that’s in violation of a dress code that goes back to 1957. Don’t work at Disney, don’t work at Wal-Mart. It’s deeply troubling that these accommodations are made on a daily basis, and it’s wrong. The “mosquing” of public schools where you set aside prayer space for Muslim children, it’s wrong. If you’re religious, then send them to madrassa.
The book is a guide to help people who write me on a regular basis on the whitewashing of the school curriculum, how you address a mega-mosque going up on their street by a Muslim brotherhood proxy, and how one individual can try to preserve our individual freedoms.
What about the protection of freedom of religion for those who practice Islam?
They’re free to practice their religion. In absolutely no way, shape, or form is anyone stopping them from practicing their religion. It’s the separation of mosque and state, which is problematic because in every Muslim country mosque is state. Every Muslim country is ruled by the Shariah, and if not it takes an army to keep the integrity the separation of mosque and state as you see in Turkey. Now that we’ve witnessed the election of a devout Muslim [Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan] that whole era of Ataturk is going the way of a historical blip. It’s very disheartening to hear a prime minister saying that “the mosques are our fortresses, the minaret are our bayonets, and the Muslims are our soldiers.”
The government shouldn’t be offering Shariah loans because Shariah finance must be halal which means they can’t invest in whole American sectors, like alcohol, pork, tobacco, and some form of entertainment. And 2.5 percent goes to zakat, goes to charity, and many times that charity is considered to be jihad.
I’m hosting a 9/11 memorial rally at Ground Zero, where 9/11 family members will be speaking, first responders who were not invited [to the official ceremonies], clergy who were banned from official ceremonies. As one 9/11 mom said to me who lost her only son, she was so glad we were doing the rally because people will know what really happened 10 years ago, and the official ceremony is “devoid of any meaning.”
Ten years after 9/11, what do you think the lessons are for America?
I’m very disheartened. When I learned about December 7th and Pearl Harbor, there was none of that “kumbaya” silliness. The U.S. was resolved in its determination to defeat the enemy, and 10 years after Decemeber 7th, the Japanese were vanquished as were the Nazis. Here we are 10 years after 9/11 and you have a president issuing talking points not to speak about Al-Qaeda, not to speak about the motivation or the ideology that inspired the worst attacks in American history. Almost as if we’ve lost, because this is narrative of the Islamist supremacists.
Did Japanese internment camps violate human rights?
I think that this is luxury, 50-60 years later, for the utterly free to sit and recriminate. The free world was on the precipice and it could have gone either way. If you want to make the case that they erred on the side of caution, I disagree, nobody was killed. We had an enemy that meant to destroy us, and we did what we had to do to preserve this great nation. A nation that was unique in the history of mankind, the first moral government, based on individual rights. I hear people say Hiroshima was a mistake, but I don’t agree. I think that part of the problem is that everybody assumes their freedom today. You think that you and your children are going to have it, but you’re wrong. You have to fight for it.
Are you worried that your work can be used to inspire or justify violence, like in the case of the Norway shooting?
I have never once advocated for violence, but the Koran does. In the 18,000 attacks around the world since 9/11, no one will make that connection. So if some whack-job was inspired, I don’t see it. It’s a mendacious, fallacious blood libel, and I refuse to accept it on any level.
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