[ April 19, 2024 ]
I was on Eric Bolling's show, Follow the Money, discussing the mainstreaming of Sharia and islamic gender apartheid. We discussed an article by a Muslim woman, Shamci Rafani of Visalia, California, that appeared in yesterday’s Visalia Times-Delta, calling for the stoning of women who engage in infidelity. The very idea that this ran in a California newspaper speaks more to the issue than this Muslima's ardent belief in the Sharia. It is astounding that an American newspaper published this. Are they being paid to mainstream Sharia?
This article is an effort to justify a barbaric practice, a practice that is regularly carried out in Iran and elsewhere in the Islamic world, with women being stoned to death for adultery.
This is in full accord with the Islamic law that we're always told is compatible with Western law, and that we need not and should not outlaw. Of course Muslim Brotherhood-tied CAIR's Christina Abraham (she's got the Christians and the Jews covered with that alias) was on, practicing deception and taqiyya, saying this has nothing to do with the Sharia.
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In many countries, including mine, when a man makes such a mistake as Arnold did and fathers a child, the law makes him be the father and take the responsibility.
But the woman who had been aware of her wrongdoing, and yet had done it without any shame or fear, must be punished severely.
Yes, in many countries, the public will stone that woman to death.
Believe me, that might be the right answer to the behavior of these kind of loose women, who want to blame it all on men.
My main question is, how many more families have to be destroyed?
How many families have to lose their hap-piness and their dignity because of these loose women? And how long would it take for lawmakers to keep these loose women responsible for their own actions?
These women are doing it without any shame and embarrassment as long as the media and the society, in general, are accepting them with open arms, as if they had been victims.
I am not saying that these men had a right to do so, yet my con-cern is that women's liberalization had passed their boundaries by creating these kind of activities with the name of (equality of sexes), and by destroying many families' happiness, have not been able to gain any valuable thing.
To be equal with the opposite sex does not mean to sell yourself cheaply, announce it to the world and be proud of it.
Power could come from moral, dignity and real love (which means not to ruin other people's happiness) and then get away with it.
Sleeping around with any man who came along, especially with a married man, must not be something to be proud of and awarded for.
These women not only must not be awarded, but they must pay for destroying the happiness and the future of their victims, especially this woman who lived with the family and had become a member of that family.
These slut women do not know how to say no. To my judgment, these women who freely sleep with married men must be severely punished and put to death.
If the lawmakers do something about it, you will find less stories like Arnold's.
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55 Comments
12 years ago
You spoke well, as usual, Pam.
As to that liar Joey, what a creep!
12 years ago
so lawmaker make people moral??? for what the man??? and the women is put to death???
12 years ago
I discussed Sharia law in US for almost a hour with my Co-Host Eric Voogd on The Bibi Report radio show tonight http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bibireport/2011/06/07/the-bibi-report-radio-show-on-israel–its-1948-stupid
12 years ago
How about stoning the muslim bastard who cheated on me, moreover, married me, produced a family, lied about his underhanded agenda to simply get his green card so that he could remain here and then cheated his way out of a marriage…? Where are the rules for those men? Without the men instigating and encouraging it, you know the rest. How about teaching men to be more faithful to their women, families, etc. But really, stoning anyone for any reason is absolutely Barbaric.
Is this what America will be reduced to?
How about if they get the hell out of “Our” great nation and take their turd world garbage and -isms back to the hell they crawled from.
12 years ago
Pamela – fabulous job, as always!
Regarding the newspaper printing this garbage…the good thing to come out of this is, the Muslima who wrote this garbage isn’t doing herself any good, and it just makes Islam look even less favorable than it already does in this country. This crap only manages to piss people off all the more. People here are getting sick and tired of this muzzie bs, and it’s only a matter of time before people these knuckledraggers are going to be forced to head back to whatever islamic hell hole they came from.
12 years ago
- SEX IS NOT A CRIME. A WOMAN’S BODY IS HER OWN.
Once these two facts are established – beyond doubt and beyond argument – we can start to discuss the fine points, such as:
RAPE is not just sex – it is sex with violence. The violence part is illegal, immoral and just plain wrong.
What a women does with her body, as long as it does not cause direct harm to another living human (such as passing on HIV, etc.), is her business and not the business of an imam, priest, nun, goddess, newspaper reporter or mummified fanatic!
We should not waste time arguing with these people. Just state that their assumption that they have rights over another adult’s sex life is totally false. end of discussion!
12 years ago
PAMELA… I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU AND THANK YOU… if only every country had a Pamela Geller..!!
love from Australia..
12 years ago
I agree with Yahoo and Hope Hitchens..
A New waves of 9/11 Not for the Americans who are peace loving community But onlyu the Hate-Preachers.
Geller, Spencer and More others needs a Hell .
12 years ago
wow HOW MANY ALIASES do you have LMFAO!!!!!!! I would for you to try something anything………keep sitting on your ass running your mouth………
12 years ago
Ah Hop it’s good to see you slithered out from under a rock to wave the “religion of peace” banner yet again.
You are about as scary as Pee Wee Herman so I think you should get a refund on the “Terrorism 101” course attended at your local Mosque.
Why don’t you be a good girl and do some serious research into Islam instead of allowing yourself to be brainwashed by your local Imam.
12 years ago
Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi.
Yes Pamela is one in a million.
12 years ago
Pamela Geller is a “hate mongers”. Sure……..and Islam means peace!
There is not a word in the English language that adequately describes your level of insanity.
12 years ago
Hey Yahoo you are obviously looking for a job as a comedian.
Keep trying but don’t give up your daytime job.
If you have even half a brain cell that is fully functional here is a website that will help you enormously:
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
12 years ago
Hey “Australia” what an insult to a great country that you should choose such a name.
I lived in Aussie for some time and I don’t ever remember meeting any morons like you.
Give my regards to all the other retards at the Lakemba Mosque.
12 years ago
There is a sanctimonious stench that comes with the Muslim pretense to superior family and sexual morality. Their so-called morality is based in the control of women.
People should be very suspicious of any group 9in this case Muslims), or person in a group, that sneers at others for their alleged “immorality.” It is like Jim Baker of PTL farting platitudes about “family values.”
I agree with Jesus who re “the woman caught in adultery” began writing the sins of her accusers in the sand after he said: “He who is without sin may cast the first stone.” Schwarzenegger, Winer, etc. are no different than Muslims, or anyone else in their human weakness, but they don’t have a religious ideology to control women to make their behavior “moral.”
The more people fart platitudes and recommend “Muslim morality” 9especially on sexual matters) the more you can bet that they are full of crap.
12 years ago
Hop Hitchens now that sounds like a name you got from an old cowboy comic.
“Hop” as in short for Hopalong (Cassidy) and “Hitchens” as in he’s hitchen his horse to the rail pudnuh.
OK Hoppy let’s guess, your favorite cowboy movie is “The Camel Rustlers of Mecca Gulch.”
Oooops sorry I digressed after being so inspired by your deep and meaningful comments.
O.K. Hop if you really want to get educated about Islam, here’s a website that ONLY quotes the Quran and the Hadith which is a must read for any good Muslim.
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
12 years ago
Was that a regular conversion or the NOI variety, Hop, the one that comes with the cute little bow tie? Was it shreiking Leftist hatred for everything American, or just rampaging racism against “whitey”? Mosque “conversion”, or were you doing Time for some cowardly crime and the “bruthers” told you how becoming a Slave to Allah would help you to Get Even Wit’ Da Man?
Or are you just some pimply 13-year-old product of our libtard “educational” system trying to be Troll of the Year?
12 years ago
I think you are terrific, Pamela. And I don’t say that to “butter you up.” I think you are marvelous.
The lady who mentioned that we need an honest discussion re Sharia nailed the truth. My hunch is that probably 50% of the Muslims in the US seek to impose Sharia here. Islam mandates that. The King hearings should address this issue. We (Muslim and non-Muslim) have to stop the BS on this matter. Pamela is telling the truth re the problem.
12 years ago
If you don’t own your own body, then you own nothing. Islam completely denies individualism, including ownership of the body for the “slave class” that it makes of women. So of course these savages, still living in the Dark Ages in terror of their incomprehensible psychotic god, desperate to justify themselves by violently carrying out what they are convinced are its wishes.
This Rafani creature, if she is known outside of her little ummah closed circle, deserves to be regarded with suspicion as befits anyone openly advocating murder. The Visalia Times-Delta deserves a sharp drop in readership, just as it would had it seen fit to publish an article advocating genocide against Jews or the lynching of blacks or the murder of gays. Free expression is a two-way street.
12 years ago
To Hop Hitchens,
Uh…Oh..somebody needs a hug.
12 years ago
Mikie, don’t be so hard on Hop. Islam is superior. Ya git four wives, they can’t ALL have a headache at the same time. And they git younger as you git older. NOt sure I’m into 9 year olds though. That’s just sick, no matter how manny growth hormones are in the food.
Plus ALL ya got to do is say I divorce ya three times, no fuss no mess and NO LAUYERS! Ya can wack em, ALL ya fot to do is say it’s an honor klillin. Ya can kill infidels and “do that what you wish for women you hold in your right hand for they are provided by Allah for your pleasure”. Plus you git to keep the infidels wealth.
What’s not to like?
12 years ago
Carl V. “Sam” Lamb and I served side-by-side as rifle-squad
leaders Fox Company, “Chesty” Puller’s 1st Marines, 1st Marine
Division. He wrote a book about our experiences in the Korean
conflict, 1950-1951. He included my remarks about an incident in
which one of our people threatened to punch-out a fellow squad-
leader who had black skin.
+ + +
THE LAST PARADE
by Carl V. Lamb Page 296 (1951)
James Fletcher Baxter
Sam and I had a lot in common. We both resisted evil. After I
got out of the hospital, ‘Big Jim’ Causey told of driving along
in his police cruiser and hitting a black man in his head
with his pistol. He thought it was funny how the guy sprawled
into the street. When he made this comment we were in a card
game. I didn’t say anything, but then he said he was going to
kick the ____ out of Joe Goggins and I had heard enough.
I said, “If you’re going to try that, you’ll have to go through
me to get to him. I’m willing to give my life for a country
that values each individual. If that isn’t true, I don’t want
to fight for that country – but, it is true, so I’m not going
to let you rob me of the very good reason I may lose my life
tomorrow or next week. If you attack him, you attack me. I
may lose, but I guarantee I will make it very expensive for
you to get to him. Let me know what you decide.”
He got up from our card game and said, “I’ll have to think
about it.”
I said, “Let me know. I’ll be here.”
He came back a little later and said, “You’re right. I was
wrong.” I thanked him for his manliness.
Joe Goggins came to me later and thanked me. He had wet eyes.
+ + +
(6/7/11)
Shortly after the above event, Causey was sent home on a
medical emergency for a family member. On the way, he
made a stop at a Naval medical facility stateside and ran into
my brother, Sgt. Howard “Barney” Baxter, 5th Marines, with
Chosen Reservoir frost-bitten feet. My brother said Causey
told him what had happened, and that it had “changed his life
forever.” Never again would he do “the collective thing” of race
abuse. He saw the value of each individual, regardless of race,
station, or gender. He even forgave himself and became a worthy
and honorable U.S. Marine.
Jim Baxter
Sgt. USMC
WWII & Korean War
semper fidelis
pointman/follower of The Lion of Judah
INDIVIDUAL VALUE – Gift of Y’shua JESUS
by James Fletcher Baxter
The Old World method of measuring human value was,
and still is, by the group. Whether tribe, clan,
city-state, color, ethnic, or gender, the Old
World, ancient and modern, measures by the plural
unit. Individuals had and have no value of them-
selves but only as they were and are part of a
collective.
When Y’shua Jesus died on the cross, the veil of
the Temple at the Holy of Holies parted from the
top down. The individual believer in the congrega-
tion had, for the first time, a face-to-face, one-
on-one relation with his Creator. The Creator,
Himself, had validated each individual for the
first time.Thus, the Individual became the corner-
stone for later human value measuring systems:
socio-political, philosophical, religious, educa-
tional, economic, etc., henceforth and forever.
Western Civilization, America, English Law, civil
Rights, the ‘democratic’ process, etc., all sprang
from that single event. (Greco-Roman ‘democracies’
were 95% slave throughout their entire histories.)
Biblical principles are still today the foundation
under Western Civilization and the American way of
life.
Many social systems attempt to borrow ideas of
“democracy” without the basic premise in The Indi-
vidual. Such a system is only superficially and
temporarily ‘democratic.’ The cornerstone of the
democratic process is The Individual and the
cornerstone of the value of The Individual is
Y’shua Jesus! It is not possible to have one with-
out the other. There is only One Source – there is
no other.
It is additionally interesting to note that all
value measuring systems are based on the single
definitive unit of the system. Ex: Number, Time,
Distance, Weight, Heat, Money, Angle, Volume, etc.
Only humanism makes the abusive error of measuring
human value by the plural unit and attempts to
build social structures, relations, and institu-
tions thereon. Such man-made systems can only be
abusive and oppressive because in reality there
are only individual persons. Groups or collectives
are merely convenient verbalizations about indi-
viduals. They are not reality.
I have yet to see a ‘group.’ All I have ever seen
are individuals.Have you ever seen a group – or is
it a verbal convenience? Reality is only in the
individual person. And, such a validation never
derived from a human source without the initiative
of the Creator. (The French Rationalists of the
18th Century favored the fruit – but rejected the
branch, tree, and root.)
Today, wherever Y’shua Jesus is rejected, the
group or collective is still the basic way of
measuring human value – or human non-value.
We thank the Lord God for revealing His validation
of each individual person. We thank Him for creat-
ing each person uniquely, in His image, and call-
ing each one to a courageous ascension by Y’shua
Jesus, who said, “I AM the Way…”
Praise the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and
His Son of Man, Y’shua Jesus.
Reference: Exodus 25:30,40 Hebrews 9 Matthew 27:51
Mark 15:38 Luke 23:45 KJV
Jim Baxter
Teacher, 5th Grade – 30 wonderful years!
vincit veritas
pointman/follower of The LION of JUDAH
12 years ago
While the old saying “it takes two to tango” applies to those who violate the sanctity of marriage, only a completely barbaric system of law would sanction death for it. The west has grappled with the destruction of the family by government enough to know that instituting a barbaric government to correct it is a fraud in itself. The worst part is that it appears the plan is to do that but in a way that the people will have no power to resist it given the omnipotence it has asserted and condoned by both congress and the courts. Both are a treacherous lot and both need to be purged of their powers and ideological subversives.
12 years ago
A good discussion Pamela. But it sure brought out some haters on the blog here. Wow. the best to you and keep on keepin’ on.
12 years ago
Thanks Hop, now we know what we’re dealing with (if we didn’t already).
12 years ago
It’s hell enough living on the same planet with you and your idiotic, moronic friends. Go find another blog where you bottom-feeders can thrive. We here at Atlas know too much, speak the truth and will kick your asses!!! Bye now!
12 years ago
I think you’re right, Hop and Australia are playing tricks on us. Why did it seem so real???
12 years ago
That’s true, if you don’t like of your wives you can throw her into the streets and get a new one. There’s nothing she can do because without a male owner she has no existence in her society, so she just has to join the beggars by the town gate. It’s a great system, but I don’t hear the western feminists making an issue out of it. Funny, I thought they were against “inequality” against women. I guess that savage brutality is ok though.
Here’s a good read on feminism:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/women-in-islam/open-letter-to-western-feminist-figureheads-and-academics/
12 years ago
“Is this what America will be reduced to?”
If non-muslim American women continue to marry muslim men it will contribute to America being reduced to that. You were foolish. You paid the predictable price. I hope things are well for you now. Your story is reminiscent of what happened in the family of Sarah and Amina Said.
12 years ago
Mac,
“Ya git four wives, they can’t ALL have a headache at the same time.”
That was borderline brilliant. LOL.
12 years ago
Trolls are on this post like flies on shit. You know you’re over your target when you’re taking flak. Very nicely done Pamela.
For those of you who have Netflix and would like to take a very honest look at the stoning of women for adultery I recommend that you watch the film “The Stoning of Soroya M.”, it’s available streaming. The film was produced by an Iranian filmmaker and at least 95% of it is in Farsi with subtitles, but it is riveting nonetheless. After watching it you will be even more adamant that sharia can not be allowed to gain foothold here.
12 years ago
It happens to a lot of women, world over. They are predators. It’s vile.
12 years ago
LMAO, lilredbird I think you covered all the possibilities with that. The “little bow tie” part almost made me spray my keyboard with my morning tea.
12 years ago
Actually as annoying as liberals and pro-Islamists are, they allow for a vigorous debate and give their opposing (ignorant) views a chance to be heard and then answered with facts, reason and intelligence from us anti-Islamists.
Remember that he was speaking perhaps for the vast majority of people who have absolutely no understanding of Islam and want to do what they think is good and right, showing tolerance to a minority group.
There is a very broad gap in understanding by liberals and those uninformed on Islam. So this is a great opportunity for us anti-Islamists to educate our fellow non-muslims.
Naturally one is inclined to become frustrated and angry at their ignorance, but we must remember that before we knew anything about Islam, we used to think about it, much as they do now.
Before I researched Islam (pre-9/11), I thought muslims were no different than jews, christians, hindus, etc and having had muslims friends, I bought into their ‘America is oppressing us’ nonsense, likewise for their propaganda on Israel.
But I am an open-minded person by nature so I educated myself on both sides of the issue and of course after 9/11, which was a very eye-opening event, I truly became aware of Islam being this century’s Nazism.
So instead of getting upset with liberals or others who are uninformed on Islam because they don’t know what we know, we should take that as a teaching opportunity to educate them as much as possible. What they do about it after is up to them. Of course some people will remain adamantly opposed to us-even after knowing the truth about it, but that’s their choice to be our adversary and align with this dangerous ideology.
Some close family relatives of mine who are liberals, used to debate with me about Islam-taking the view that it is harmless and that I was being paranoid and exaggerating the threat. I carefully and respectfully addressed all their arguments and explained why Islam is a death cult and is antithetical to everything we hold dear.
There is a tipping point in understanding-you can clearly see the change happen in their eyes, when the light-bulb went off and they realized I was right about everything I said. Then their entire attitude and perspective changes.
So that’s what we have here-a great dearth in understanding about Islam by the majority. We need to put aside our political, cultural, religious and other differences and help our fellow infidels become informed about Islam. Knowledge is power as they say. Also once they’re aware, they can never fall for all the lies and propaganda that muslims push on us to advance their agenda.
Here is a helpful guide for us anti-Islamists on how to educate others on Islam:
http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2011/03/how-to-talk-to-non-muslims-about.html
12 years ago
Agreed, she did an excellent job, her answer on taqqiya was impressive (probably went over the head of that liberal Joey on the panel though), she could take over Robert Spencer’s role if she wanted. 🙂
Clearly we can see the entire panel aside from Joey, really respects her opinion. I remember a time she was seen as just another voice on that show but now they realize she’s an authority on the subject.
Pamela definitely paid her dues, receiving heaps of scorn and abuse for defying conventional wisdom. She was never cowed, always showed up for battle, with her head held high and spoke the truth. This is how illustrious and honorable reputations are built, from the ground up.
12 years ago
I get so sick of the bs line, “All religions have their extremists”. BULL. Only iSLIME advocates stoning. No Christian goes around killing in Christ’s name. NONE. Jews don’t kill in the name of their religion. NONE.
I think the next time some fool says that we should ask them are they justifying what is done in MoHAM-mad’s name? That we shouldn’t point out the violence done to spread iSLIME?
12 years ago
Wow! Islamic dualism in the news today with one Muslimah wanting to stone adultresses and another wanting to legalize sex slavery to prevent adultery.
So in other words, sex with a free woman is adultery, but taking a slave is not.
12 years ago
A bitch of an article written by a . . . bitch.
Care to induct her into the Junior Anti-Sex League?
12 years ago
So Hop CONFIRMS that he/she is that POS TROLL that was on here making THREATS the other day.
And Hop could easily be a woman who “fell” for a Jihadist,CONVERTED,and now is a FULL-FLEDGED resident of a JIHADI’S HAREM.
Regardless,Hop is likely giving an IP# that is either OUTSIDE the USA or is an Internet Cafe or a Public Library.
The HATRED of the BASTARD towards our country says only one thing:
Hop ,under any SN,is an ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES.
The question is : Is Hop a Foreign or Domestic Enemy ,and IF Domestic,is Hop an American citizen TRAITOR and/or SEDITIONIST?
12 years ago
So you want Americans to stop building schools and hospitals for Muslims, because Muslims do such a miserable job of it themselves. And stop sending billions of dollars of aid to Muslim countries. And never help them out after a natural disaster — even knowing that the other Muslim countries aren’t likely to help much, if at all.
Why don’t you go to Oslo and demand that your Muzzie pals stop raping Scandinavian women? Demand that the clean up the hell they have made out of formerly placid city neighborhoods.
Wherever Muslims go, they make things worse.
People who CHOOSE to convert to Islam — in view of its utterly miserably history of hatred and bloodshed — have something very wrong in their souls. You are a prime illustration.
12 years ago
What will your Muzzie pals do if you ever realize that converting to their crappy religion was a horrible mistake? Did they tell you beforehand that “apostasy” carries the death penalty?
12 years ago
Pamela obviously has YOUR IP TOO,MF!
You have just SLANDERED and LIBELED HER, in PUBLIC , on her own site,and in YAHOO’S name.
That “click” you hear is the land mine you just stepped on .
12 years ago
How does quoting people amount to “preaching hate”? Pamela reveals what Islam actually teachings, what Muslims say and do. It’s ugly, but that isn’t Pamela’s fault.
12 years ago
Then you’re going there with US!
Actually,the Australians can do to you what you want to do to Israel,ie,Australia ,being a huge Island ,they can DRIVE YOU & YOUR ILK into the sea,the PACIFIC.
12 years ago
Islam already has religiously-approved prostitution in the form of “temporary marriage.” That can come in handy in many cases, including when you want to remarry someone you’ve divorced, which you can’t do unless you’ve meanwhile been married to someone else. Bizarre.
12 years ago
“…practicing deception and taqiyya (3:28, 16:106, 5:51), saying this has nothing to do with the Sharia”
vs.
“Honor” killings are allowed by Sharia Law (o2.4, ‘Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2.)
http://newstime.co.nz/honor-killings-to-offspring-are-allowed-in-islam-to-sharia-law-o2-4-reliance-of-the-traveller.html
Many ahadith Sahih Bukhari + Muslim (i.e. “sound”, “reliable”)
Muhammad orders to stone adulters http://schnellmann.org/stoning_bukhari_muslim.pdf (PDF 202 KB)
12 years ago
And most converts to Islam leave before three years are up. Remember that Hop.
12 years ago
Wow. How unoriginal. Calling a strong woman criticising you promiscuos. I hope you get sued for that crap you just posted (as it is legally libel FYI).
12 years ago
Women who live together tend to menstruate at the same time. Can you imagine four PMS cases all at the same time? Do what Mohammed did and keep them in different houses.
12 years ago
sex with a free woman is adultery, but taking a slave is not.
I see you’ve been reading the Quran!
