TiZA, an Islamic Public School, Threatens and Intimidates Witnesses in ACLU Lawsuit

ACLU needs to back off, the term separation of church and state has been so misused since the latter 40’s.
When Jefferson made this statement, it purposely got abused. This statement is not in the Constitution nor any government document. It is therefore not a law. What Jefferson meant by this comment, is that he wanted to keep the state out of the church, but keep the church in the state.
Our tax dollars should not even be paying for this Islamic school, there shouldn’t even be AN ISLAMIC SCHOOL at all!
This is America, not Islam….sounds like ACLU needs to disappear and those folks need to get a new job..chain ganging it.
This school needs to be exposed & expelled out of society.

hey mofos at any school who tries this: if i or any of my kids is there we will stand up and holler no fricking’ way. we REJECT your fascist ideology. say NO to islam! peroid. “no compulsion in religion’ my arse.
we will holler, we will fight. we will take no shiz from you pitiful, stanky,racist mofos.
get the hell out.

i am a jew. a proud mofrickin’ jew. and we have put up with this bullshi- for the last 1400 years. no more. no way. you play your disgusting ‘call to submission’ on your loudspeakers in israel and everywhere else. no way. just come and try it in my neighborhood. oh hell no. you will NOT abuse innocent school kids. this is illegal, immoral..and you will pay if you try it. you will feel me you ugly, sick mofos.

This is a Moslem school, just like there are Catholic schools which, BTW, do receive taxpayer funds even tho they aren’t “charter schools.” Try to understand the reason behind Charter schools. If you disagree with the concept, fine, get it shut down. Charter schools were started so that all kids could get a free education. This was so that if a community had a lot of people who wanted their kids to focus on lets say, arts, they could do so without it becoming a luxury item. Not every kid fits into the mold public education has to offer. Some do better with Montessori early experiences, some do better with Waldorf and some parents want a religious world view to be part of their kids learning experience.

mk750, you are misinformed. See this:
http://www2.ed.gov/policy/elsec/guid/cspguidance03.pdf
It is guidance for charter schools in the United States. Charter schools may not be religious in nature nor teach religion, other than in the course of studying all religions. Religious services may not be offered nor practiced, other than prayer.
According to witnesses, this school is in violation of the mandate for charter schools.

Thanks sheide. Great comment.

mk750 I can only assume that the “mk” stands for Mohammad Khan or something similar.
You claim to be an Israeli Jew while you defend Islam so I can deduce that you are either totally ignorant of the facts or you work for C.A.I.R. or some other Muslim organization.
You claim America came about via Freemasonry. Hmmmmm I heard an Imam once spouting the same trash as a means of disconnecting the American Constitution from the Judeau-Christian influence.
You claim we will find this truth by looking into Freemasonry & the 33rd Degree Shriners. I have studied this concept in great detail and can conclude that at very best this whole “Freemasonry / Founding Fathers” ideology is based on VERY flimsy evidence that does not stand up against any serious investigation.
mk750 I have a great nose for smelling a rat and believe me I smell a VERY BIG RAT as I read your posts.
Just to bring you up to speed, in case you haven’t noticed, the ACLU & ISLAM are out to destroy America and Western Civilization.
This is a war and there is NO NEUTRALITY IN THIS WAR.
I don’t have to ask WHERE DO YOU STAND as you have made it obvious.

Grimcargo I wanted to applaud as I read your comment. You are right on the money!!!

The Amendment defends us against a state run religion while protecting the freedom of religious principles in America. That is the spirit of the founding father intentions. With Christianity & Judaism [along with some other forms of religion like Buddhism etc…] it is possible to allow their principles to influence our laws without creating a theocracy.
With Islam?
Impossible on all accounts. The ideology demands a Islamic theocracy in government and would bring the destruction of the our Constitution. Is this behavior protected under the Constitution? Of course not. Labeling Islam merely a religion is the Trojan horse of our times.

From today’s NY Times:
Letters
Hezbollah’s IndependencePublished: October 15, 2010
Sunday Book Review: ‘A Privilege to Die’ by Thanassis Cambanis (October 3, 2010) To the Editor:
Joe Klein, in his review of “A Privilege to Die,” by Thanassis Cambanis (“The Hezbollah Project,” Oct. 3), says Mr. Cambanis fails “to put Lebanese Hezbollah in the context of Iran’s larger terrorist network.” However, Mr. Cambanis is correct in his presentation; the idea that Hezbollah today has a place in Iran’s “larger terrorist network” is ill-informed. Hezbollah has not been under Iranian political or military control for nearly a decade. It is now an organization operating on its own recognizance, although it continues to receive a fraction of its operating funds from Iran — much of it in the form of religious charitable contributions from its Shia brethren.
WILLIAM O. BEEMAN
Minneapolis
The writer is a professor and the chairman of the anthropology department at the University of Minnesota.
Minnesota – seems to be infested with sharia and taqiyah and dawa – so we buy locally produced butter and eggs and milk.

THere shouldn’t be Catholic charter schools either!

Very good, I wish more people would realize that not standing with and supporting the US is standing with and supporting the enemy, this is a war where there can be no neutrals.

I hope that ATLAS, that is our Pamela, could open up another front. This one would be on JEWICIDAL Jews such as the ACLU atorneys, Soros, Blumberg and the thousands of others who MUST hate their own heritage and people and are out to destroy Judism as well as Western Civilization. As for Blumberg, can it really be he WANTS BILLIONS more? How many BILLION are enough?

Dear Pamela and all who follow Atlas Shrugs: PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO ABOUT COPTIC CHRISTIANS IN eGYPT! TREATED LIKE SLAVES TO MUSLIMS, DAUGHTERS STOLEN TO MARRY MUSLIMS, PARENTS TORTURED FOR ASKING WHERE DAUGHTER IS! tHESE PEOPLE CAN ONLY WORK SORTING RUBBISH! MOTHERS WHO ARE CHRISTIAN SAY THEIR DAUGHTERS WILL BE RAPED IF DONT CONVERT TO ISLAM! COMING HERE TOO, IF WE DONT FIGHT IT NOW!!
THIS IS THE TRUE APARTHEID STATE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!! PLEASE WRITE TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN/SENATOR/BLOG
http://madaboutmahound.blogspot.com/2010/10/egypts-rubbish-people.html

With America, which is where the ACLU stands.

It’s time for freedom-minded people around the world to take a stand against the attack on free speech by Muslims. So, here’s a Q&A and a plea for action:
Q: Is there justification for burning Korans, drawing cartoons of Muhammad, having shadow puppet shows that Muslims don’t like, or showing films like “Fitna” or “The Stoning of Soraya M”?
A: YES! Those who do so are sending a message that free speech is sacred and free people are not going to allow Islamic intimidation to shut it down.
Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, David Horowitz, Geert Wilders, and others are great spokesmen for the effort to inform people of the dangers of Islam, and they have pointed out that we, the people, because we have the right to free speech, have the right to draw cartoons of anything we want to, including the warrior Muhammad, as well as the right to burn anything we want to, including the right to burn Mein Kampf or my Koran.
But, they also need to promote the EXERCISE of free speech (draw Muhammad days, Koran burning days, “International Free Speech Day”, etc) to remind free people that we must take ACTION to protect the freedom of speech. Just as the muscles of the body must be exercised in order to maintain vitality, free speech must also be exercised. As the saying goes: USE IT OR LOSE IT!!!
Whenever and however it’s done, the events need participation by as many people as possible so that Muslims and the MSM can’t focus their ire on any one person, as they did with the minister in Florida.
WE’RE EITHER IN THEIR FACE NOW OR THEY’LL BE IN OUR BEHINDS LATER. There can be no backing up or backing down.
Please sign the petition for an International Free Speech Day: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nationalfreespeechday/ Then, forward it to everyone who values free speech.

As for the ACLU being funded by Soros – coincidence.

These people are not American. They do not come here to become American. They want to exercise power over our nation and pursue this goal in actions such as these. Islam is a political system shrouded in the gloss of religion. It is a danger.
Don’t talk to me about American-born muslims being “moderate muslims.” Do you hear them speaking up about the abuses such as this? No. They fear their own religious sisters and brothers.
Moderate muslims are like moderate Nazis and moderate Nazis allowed the Holocaust to take place.

Maybe the Moderate muslims can’t afford to quit their jobs and go into hiding or hire bodyguards 24/7 if they do speak up. They can see what happens to apostates and others who speak out in public against islam. I’m sure some of them go along to get along, fearing persecution. Trouble is, we can’t tell the difference so I don’t trust any of them.

i am not afraid of anything except the G-d of Israel.

please tell the readers where these Catholic Schools are located.
We need the addresses and phone numbers of each.
(Remember we are not talking about one or two odd classes
that the public schools agree to share with the lowly Chritians!)
We are talking about entire schools or school districts that the
American taxpayer supports. NEED THE NAMES, ADDRESSES NOW!

How is it possible that a public school can be Islamic? I believe you have in the States a seperation between religion and State. The school is funded with taxpayers money, so where is the separation? Well, here in Holland were actually worse off, I must add. Here we have public schools which are all non-religious. But then…we have all kinds off religion based schools (every Christian denomination, Jewish, Islamic, Hindu etc). These are also payed with taxpayers money!!! Under the label: freedom of education. It’s totally absurd, of course. Two of the most damaging aspects of this: segregation of society by separing children with parents of different beliefs from another and…the combination of religion and science which is totally absurd. You can be deeply religious and yet do proper science (although I tend to be skeptical about that) but you can’t teach science under the cloth of religious dogma!!! Religion, based on assumptions and gut feelings and science, based on objective facts and empirical evidence and above all critical thinking are incomparable when it comes to education. Education is not about free choice of the parents but about the rights of the child and the freedom of the child to choose that perspective he feels comfortable with when he / she is old enough to know.

John Kelly, Your nose is wrong this time. I am an Israeli Jew. Pamela knows that I am. I understand the Arab mind because I live with it on a daily basis and my life depends on it i.e. when the only cardiologist around is named Mohammed. Fortunately I don’t have a condition that requires his services. I happen to agree with you about the ACLU and the Jihad but your Constitution allow for such people to use and abuse the system. You should have voted down CHARTER schools when the issue first arose. You should change the Constitution because the World has changed in 225 years. My stand is that MORE action needs to be taken by those of you who feel this is not the country you want to live in but as it stands, until these people commit a crime, you have no recourse as things stand. It’s your country and you are free to elect representatives who will amend the Federal Constitution and the laws of your various States to give you the community of white, christian folk you desire. That’s not unreasonable but to deny the clear writings of your current law and then claim these folks are breaking them is emotional response, not clear, critical thinking about the facts. I grew up in America being taught it is the greatest political entity in the World. It grieves me to see how the Constitution is being misapplied because of emotion. If it’s broken, fix it. Admit that the Founders had a great idea but it needs tweaking to continue to provide the culture you want in the 21st Century.

I agree, Demsci but they are dominating by changing, not the laws but the culture from within. Once they realized that the law provides for them to exercise their religion fully and freely, they put down the bombs and entered the mainstream but on their terms with their demands because they are the “Majority” in some places and the majority rules. I dont’ see them acting in treasonous ways because they want schools that teach their beliefs alone. Prove that this charter school is advocating a crime such as killing infidels that’s all I’m saying. Quoting a text isn’t enough. I can quote Torah on keeping the Sabbath but a Reform Jewish business owner will say, Oh we don’t follow that, we’re open on Saturday Ok, that doesn’t change the truth of what’s written but try and prove it is the ONLY way Jews live. You have suspicions but that’s what keeps America from being a Fascist country at this point. You don’t lock people up based on suspicion. AS you said, innocent until PROVEN guilty so prove that this school is fomenting jihad, teaching terrorism and turning it’s students against the US. I am challenging you to do that because I do believe it is likely going on but you have to live with your laws or change them. One of the major tenets of American law. along with innocent until proven is that the prosecution, you, have the burden of proof of a crime. The defendant has no burden or proof at all.

Anyone who names himself after a Tom Clancy character is too ignorant to respond to.