ABC’s 20/20 Women in Islam

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Here is the clip on the women in Islam segment of Diane Sawyer's 20/20 News Magazine that aired Friday night, in which I was interviewed. This was the best of an otherwise dishonest and pathetic hour of dawah, and that's not saying much.

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UPDATE: The Hamas-linked, Muslim Brotherhood proxy CAIR rep is lying — I know how surprised you all muct be by that  (/sarc tag)

Much thanks to Kamala for scanning these pages from one of the most important English-language sources for the content of Islamic law: Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law:


Reliance of the   Traveler - Revuse

It is certified by Al-Azhar University as a translation that "corresponds to the Arabic original and conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni Community…":

Reliance of the Traveler - Revuse

Here is the certification in Arabic:

Reliance of the Traveler - Revuse

Note that this Sharia manual also garners respect in the USA. Dr. Alan Godlas, Associate Professor of Religion at the University of Georgia, calls it a "carefully translated manual of the proper practice of Islam (shari'a) according to the Shafi'i madh'hab. It has been an essential book in the library of any serious English speaking Muslim or scholar of Islam since its publication in 1991."

In Book O, titled "Justice," in section 1, "Who is Subject to Retaliation for Injurious Crimes," section o1.1 reads, "Retaliation is obligatory … against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right…":

Reliance of the Traveler - Revuse

However, o1.2 clarifies (above) that "The following are not subject to retaliation" and then lists — after the lovely, egalitarian "Muslim for killing a non-Muslim" and "Jewish or Christian subject … for killing an apostate" — "(4) a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring":

Reliance of the Traveler - Revuse

 

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dcat
dcat
13 years ago

I say BULLSHIT TO islam! WAKE UP idiots!
Nice job Pamela!

Revolted
Revolted
13 years ago

Lots of slaves learn to love their chains and call them jewels.

dcat
dcat
13 years ago

They are the MORONS!

Miss American Pie
Miss American Pie
13 years ago

Pamela, ABC didn’t allow you much time, but wow you made the most of it! — The libs don’t want us to wake up and see the truth, but we are waking up!

Margie
Margie
13 years ago

Pamela you hit a bunch of nails on the head. I’ll bet your right, that women in Islam would never speak against Islam on TV. Their lives would be in danger. That garb the women wear is far from being free. It is OPPRESSION. It’s almost as if they have to be ashamed of their beauty. It must get pretty HOT under those dreadful tents. I say that respectfully. It must be awful in hot weather.

Stepnanie
Stepnanie
13 years ago
madmath1
madmath1
13 years ago

Yet, nothing but crickets from NOW. IF these fools want to wear masks because they give an illusion of freedom, which is a repugnant to Muslim so she was lying right there, they have a right to make a fool of themselves, but don’t lecture how you’re free from sexual exploitation when what you’re wearing is signifing your sexual exploitation. Perhaps it’s merciful to us as well. Since they honor kill all their good looking women and those that wear are most likely just as ugly on the outside as they are in the inside, perhaps it’s truly liberating that we don’t have to look at them.

Jacqueline
Jacqueline
13 years ago

Good report Pamela,
I agree with you women that are forced will never go & say it. Many have to obey husband or forced by Islamists,I was told by a cousin in Egypt that many were forced to obey or will be in trouble.
I wonder of all muslims know that Aisha refused to cover her face :
“When the son of a prominent companion of the Prophet asked his wife Aisha bint Talha to veil her face, she answered, ‘Since the Almighty hath put on me the stamp of beauty, it is my wish that the public should view the beauty and thereby recognized His grace unto them. On no account, therefore, will I veil myself’.”

Robin Shadowes
Robin Shadowes
13 years ago

It was probably Aisha who poisoned the scumbag. God knows she had all the right reasons to do it.

Paul Delaup
Paul Delaup
13 years ago

Save the emotions.
1.Look up “Diane Sawyer website and links”. Go to the bottom of the page.
2.Scroll to “Contact”.
3.Show what you think by writing 1 or 2 paragraphs.
4. Ask people you know to do the same. This should accomplish a lot more than taking up space on this page.

Bo Perrin
Bo Perrin
13 years ago

There is a world wide manhunt going on to find the Al Qaeda operatives who are believed to be planning Mumbai-style attacks on the West: http://islamicjihadwatch.wordpress.com/2010/10/04/world-wide-manhunt/

jane
jane
13 years ago

Call my cynical but is Obama coordinating the timing for his October surprise and heroic internvention?

seb
seb
13 years ago

The exemplary Muslim woman from Albuquerque stated that the events of 9/11 prompted her to re-examine and commit to her faith. It would have been instructive for sane people to hear how a Jihadist attack inspired by a murderous ideology could attract anyone. If someone can think of another religion where murder is considered a good missionary recruiting tool, please let us know.

bob
bob
13 years ago

islam is not our friend

Davida
Davida
13 years ago

This foolish bitch, all covered from head to toe said that she chooses to wear this get up because here in the west women are sexualized and wear scanty clothing. So, I guess there is no in between either dress like Britney Spears or shroud yourself. I guess the clothing stores in New Mexico don’t carry a line of conservative dresses, only hot pants and tube tops. Too much time in the desert sun has caused this imbecile’s brain cells to wither.

Mimi
Mimi
13 years ago

Love your comment! Having worked in the field of mental health for many years I can tell you that just like strippers and prostitutes, these women who CHOOSE to cover from head to toe are severely mentally damaged by some childhood trauma. Of course, there are a few who may have had decent childhoods and think it’s hip to be a clotheshanger. These damaged, personality disordered souls crave, just crave attention, positive or negative. I’m sure that living in New Mexico and dressing in full sheets will garner lots of attention.Just like jail converts, they are sorely lacking an inner strength, self respect and pride of who they are and are easily led like sheep. They are ripe to be cult-followers that need to be told what to do, when to do it, how to do it. They are a product of their sick childhood environment and have been unable/unwilling to grow up and make good personal decisions. This is not merely theory, it is fact. This woman who was inspired to convert after 911? Now THAT’S pure unadulterated insanity! Normal, healthy adult women like Pamela and most on this site choose to learn the truth, choose to fight against the oppressor and not submit. As Davida said, there is conservative dress. To be on American soil and choose to wear a sheet is sheer madness! Why not make at least ONE good decision and move to a Sharia country? I guess it would’nt give you the attention you so desperately crave. Pathetic!

R_not
R_not
13 years ago

One of the things in islam that proves ol moe was making things up as the days passed was concerning the veiling of women.
Another Facebook person, Alan Leland, brought this up and I am reposting:
1. Umar repeatedly asks ol moe that allah should reveal verses for the koran pertaining to the veiling of women.
2. No such revelation is sent down.
3. Umar follows ol moe’s wives one night when they go out to relieve themselves (go to the toilet) and calls out to ol moe’s wife Sauda.
4. Sauda goes home in a state of embarrassment and relates to ol’ moe what has happened.
5. allah then reveals the hijab verse as Umar had wanted all along.
koran 24:31 / koran 24:31 / Sahih Bukhari 1:4:148 / Sahih Bukhari 8:74:257 / Sahih Bukhari 6:60:10
And another thing is that all these coverings don’t stop rapes because moslem women are still stoned, beheaded and hung because moslem men rape them.

R_not
R_not
13 years ago

And this continual saying that honor killings are not islamic is getting old. Sharia laws say there is no retaliation for killing their children, and raped women who doesn’t have 4 believers as witnesses for her – are also killed. Now the man doesn’t even have to have any proof of her rape – it can be all in his little brain!
Sharia law: o1.2 The following are not subject to retaliation for killing:
(1) a child or insane person….
(2) a moslem for killing a non-moslem
(3)
… for killing an apostate…
(4) a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.

Andy
Andy
13 years ago

Burqas and niqabs not Islamic, just a cultural issue? Must be just a coincidence that this apparel becomes de rigueur as cultures becomes Islamized.
Any chance of a Christiane or Diane ever asking one of these women – the free spirits who choose the beswaddled look – their opinions regarding women whose fashion statements ARE made under duress?
What definitely IS Islamic is that a woman is under the control of male relatives, and that males are obliged to follow the Koran’s “spare the rod, spoil the woman” guidance on relations between the sexes.
That is perhaps why we don’t see too many Islamic support groups for women forced to wear niqabs by “cultural pressures”.

knightemplar2
knightemplar2
13 years ago

Sharia Law compared to English Law (pdf to download)
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/07/shariah-law-and-english-law.html

Davida
Davida
13 years ago

I think that September 11, 2001 has empowered the muslims in this country, and now more than ever they are choosing to wear burkas and headscarfs to make an “in your face” statement. “We’re here like it or not.” This bullshit about modesty is just that BULLSHIT. I find it to be a subtle form of militancy. Some of these young girls with the head scarfs wear more eye makeup than a model for a Revlon commercial. If one were TRULY concerned about modesty as say the Amish are, they wouldn’t even put lipstick on.

'nuff already
'nuff already
13 years ago

I agree! Whining doesn’t help anything!

AuntieMadder
AuntieMadder
13 years ago

Is it okay if I do both, write Sawyer and take up space here?

AuntieMadder
AuntieMadder
13 years ago

It could happen.

AuntieMadder
AuntieMadder
13 years ago

You got that right, bob.

AuntieMadder
AuntieMadder
13 years ago

And another thing is that all these coverings don’t stop rapes because moslem women are still stoned, beheaded and hung because moslem men rape them.
Because Muslim rapists in Islamic countries are rarely punished*, and because Islam teaches boys and men to hate women, particularly any woman that a man sexualizes because that’s her fault and not his (hence the reason Muslim women wear the black tents with eye-holes, which accomplishes nothing in regards to this), common sense dictates that the rape of Muslim women (and girls and boys, too) by Muslim men in Islamic nations is more prevalant than rape of women and children by Western men in Western countries.
*Most rapes in Islamic countries aren’t even reported because under Sharia the victims are at greater risk of punishment than the perps are under Sharia law.

AuntieMadder
AuntieMadder
13 years ago

These jackasses in the lamestream media and the lies about Islam that they pass off as news reporting and journalism aren’t making our job any easier, to say the least. I’m not so much discouraged by this anymore because I can finally see that our efforts to educate Americans haven’t been in vain (thanks to the turn-out at the 9/11 rally and the new names I see here every day) but I’m still aggravated by it.
Paul DeLaup posted that we should write Sawyer. Maybe this is what I’ll say to her, that she and others aren’t going to stop us from teaching nor stop others from learning, that they’re only aggravating us to the point that we’re tuning them out, which isn’t good for ratings. Be honest or be unemployed.

WAKE UP
WAKE UP
13 years ago

Problem 1: The USA, a naturally generous nation, is still in denial about Islamic intentions.
Problem 2: getting the USA to accept that fact and take the appropriate actions – but the tipping point is coming.

AuntieMadder
AuntieMadder
13 years ago

Here’s the ABC News Web Site Feedback page: http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3271346&cat=20/20

AuntieMadder
AuntieMadder
13 years ago

Their feedback page is limited to 500 characters, so here’s the short message I submitted:
Re: Diane Sawyer/ABC’s 20/20 on Women In Islam
Just want to let you know that the lies about Islam that those of you in the lamestream media pass off as news reporting and journalism aren’t stopping those of us who know the truth from educating others, nor are your lies stopping others from learning. All you’re accomplishing with lies is alienating viewers to the point that they’re tuning you out, which is reflected in your plummeting ratings numbers. Be honest or be cancelled. It’s up to you

Paul Delaup
Paul Delaup
13 years ago

Good idea! It will show others how easy it is. I wrote to both Diane Sawyer and Christiane Amanpour. Both are brainwashed and refuse to do their own homework. Thanks.

Mimi
Mimi
13 years ago

Very true. It is an in-your-face militancy. They sure have been empowered since 911. Just disgusting. You are very correct.

linda
linda
13 years ago

God Bless this Muslim Women <3

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