NY TImes Moral Depravity: Equating Good with Evil
SIOA = Bloody Murdering Jihadists in Indonesia

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In an incomprehensible moral equivocation, The NY Times is equating our rally against the 15-story mega mosque to be built on the site of a building that was partially destroyed in the attacks on September 11 in the name of Islam, with the slaughter and persecution of Christians and the church in Indonesia.

Insane? Yes. Moral rot? Yes. Regular Atlas readers are painfully aware of the merciless attacks on Christians in the largest Muslim country in the world, Indonesia. Go here for more.

In another bloody, savage attack, Muslims seriously injured two leaders of a small congregation of Indonesian Christians. A church elder was stabbed in the stomach, and a female priest was hit in the head with a plank.

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Here is how the NY Slimes framed it:

Last week, one day after Americans opposed to the construction of an Islamic center in Lower Manhattan pledged to “Stop the Islamization of America,” a group of Islamists rallied in Bekasi, outside the Indonesian capital, to fight the “Christianization” of Indonesia, by blocking the planned construction of a church.

The Times is literally equating us  with them. Yes, according to the NY Times, SIOA is just like these  murderers in Indonesia against the church. 

NY Times reporters were trained by Rauf, so this is hardly surprising.

The hatred of the good for being the good — Ayn Rand.

Indonesian Islamists Fear ‘Christianization’ by ROBERT MACKEY

Members of Indonesia’s Islamic Defenders’ Front, or F.P.I., at a rally in Jakarta in January.Romeo Gacad/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images Members of Indonesia’s Islamic Defenders’ Front, or F.P.I., at a rally in Jakarta in January.

Indonesia, the country with the world’s largest Muslim population, is engaged in a debate about religious tolerance that might seem familiar to Americans.

Last week, one day after Americans opposed to the construction of an Islamic center in Lower Manhattan pledged to “Stop the Islamization of America,” a group of Islamists rallied in Bekasi, outside the Indonesian capital, to fight the “Christianization” of Indonesia, by blocking the planned construction of a church.

Two leaders of the small congregation of Indonesia Christians in Bekasi were seriously wounded when the rally against their planned church by vigilantes from the Islamic Defenders’ Front, or F.P.I., turned violent. Murhali Barda, who leads Bekasi’s chapter of the Islamist vigilante group, was arrested on suspicion of leading the attacks on a church elder, who was stabbed in the stomach, and a female priest, who was hit in the head with a plank.

In June, the Bekasi F.P.I. leader told The Jakarta Globe, “All Muslims should unite and be on guard because … the Christians are up to something.” He also suggested that it might be necessary for mosques to establish militias and be prepared to fight a “war” to prevent “Christianization.”

As Al Jazeera explained in a video report last week, the small Christian group said that it had obtained all the necessary signatures from local residents who agreed to allow them to build their church, but then the Islamist vigilantes pressed people to withdraw their approval.

F.P.I. vigilantes have attacked a wide range of targets in the past, throwing rocks at members of minority Muslim sects, beating gay people, destroying bars and vowing to track down the editor of Indonesia’s short-lived version of Playboy magazine, Erwin Arnada, who is now in hiding.

As Reuters explained in June when the vigilantes attacked a group of Indonesian legislators, the F.P.I. “attracts limited support in moderate, majority Muslim Indonesia, but fear of being seen as defending vice means politicians and police often turn a blind eye to their attacks on targets, such as transvestites, which are deemed un-Islamic.”

Indonesians who want to ban the group have launched a Facebook campaign to do so. Others have taken to mocking the vigilantes through posts to a fake Twitter account set up in the group’s name.

The same month, Yenny Wahid, of Jakarta’s Wahid Institute — which “is committed to the exchange and dissemination of progressive Muslim thought to promote tolerance and understanding” — told The Jakarta Globe, “Anarchism on behalf of religion is increasing, and the government seems to fear any group that uses Islam.” She added, “We do not want to be like Afghanistan under the Taliban.”

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Sebaneau
Sebaneau
13 years ago

Not a peep from Indonesian citizen Barry Soetoro AKA Soebarkah, the Usurper-in chief?

armaros
armaros
13 years ago

Who reads the NY Times outside of air travelers who have a choice of chicken and beef and the NYT or USAToday.
They should start printing it in Indonesia as otherwise the numbers will just not add up.

Grimcargo
Grimcargo
13 years ago

If you make a list of enemies of the United States. Make sure you put Liberals at the top of it. They are the enemy within.

ohmyobama
ohmyobama
13 years ago

NY Times is acting like a dumb ass in comparing opposition to Ground Zero mosque to the opposition to a Church being built in Indonesia. NYC has over 100 churches and no body is opposed to building yet another mosque far from the hallowed ground. We are an extremely tolerent society, but we should not surrender to jihadi ideology of which Rauf is a prime example. Shame on you NYT.

Madeleine
Madeleine
13 years ago

“F.P.I. vigilantes have attacked a wide range of targets in the past, throwing rocks at members of minority Muslim sects, beating gay people, destroying bars and vowing to track down the editor of Indonesia’s short-lived version of Playboy magazine, Erwin Arnada, who is now in hiding.”
The above sentence should have been the headline for that news story. So where are all the gay people up in arms over this article, as though being beaten for being gay is lower on the list of concerns, because this anti gay group is behaving like the SIOA? The last time I looked, the SIOA has been inclusive of all Americans, no matter what walk in life. The SIOA is a live and let live organization and it doesn’t ban together out on the streets and spread hate and evil and make the editor of an Indonesian play boy magazine go into hiding out of fear for his life. Are these journalists real college grads or some third rate group of morons who are working for chump change and know that the readers of the New York Slime are typically left libtards anyhow.

wri7913
wri7913
13 years ago

The US Military reads the NYT. They always say you should read what the enemy says about you so you are knowledgeable about what they are thinking.
Makes sense.

nanas4
nanas4
13 years ago

FYI: An excellent article on Canada Free Press entitled: ” The Sword and Shield to Stop the Islamization of America “….we can STOP the Muslims from using our freedoms against us if we have the WILL and WISDOM to do it!

dented
dented
13 years ago

O/T
any news as to who is responsible for shootings at Fort Bliss (Texas)?
Well wishes to the two women injured.

dented
dented
13 years ago

just found this, re Fort Bliss Army Base (Texas) up-to-date shooting timeline
http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/19272562/detail.html

dented
dented
13 years ago

I think that timeline may be an old one? Ignore

Frank
Frank
13 years ago

“Insane? Yes. Moral rot? Yes.”-Pamela
And very western-centric and racist stupid, too. They have been trained to think that “multiculturalism” means that all cultures and religions are the same. They project their Western-centric “tolerance” on Islam. Look at how that guy Mark Polak smugly compared the Hebrew Testament to the Qu’ran.
The profound ignorance of the bourgeois Left is repulsive. Multiculturalism began as a call for a non-western-centric objective attitude toward other cultures, an attitude of critical analysis of all cultures (including the West) and has deteriorated into a stupid doxy that is thinking-negative in attitude toward culture and religions. This idiocy is called “tolerance” and “tolerance” is considered a virtue by these bores. Of course “tolerance” is only an attitude, and tolerance can be rooted in intellectual cowardice (a vice).
The Qu’ran is considered the uncreated exact words of God. Most of the Left’s “multiculturalists” have no idea that the Qu’ran’s chronologically earlier verses peaceful verses that are peddled to the Dhimmis have been canceled by the later violent verses that command Muslims to decieve, dominate and finally exterminate the
Unbelievers. The people that resist these anti-intellectual bourgeois Leftist cannot repeat the truth re Islam enough:
Ibn Warraq, page 115,Why I am Not a Muslim: “Now we see how useful and convenient the doctrine of abrogation is in bailing scholars out of difficulties. Of course, it does pose a problem for apologists of Islam, since all the passages preaching tolerance are found in the Meccan, i.e., early suras, and all the passages recommending killing, decapitating, and maiming are Median, i.e., later: “tolerance” has been abrogated by “intolerance.” For example, the famous verse at Sura 9.5, “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them,” is said to have canceled 124 verses that dictate tolerance and patience.”
Pamela, as you know, one has to repeat the truth to these “tolerance” people until they don’t know whether to shit or wind their wristwatch. Most are conventional minds in a propaganda rut (Polak types, e.g.).

dented
dented
13 years ago

Bliss Shooter A Former Store Employee
http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/25095645/detail.html

aprilnovember811
aprilnovember811
13 years ago

And to think our impostor president lived there. He is actually more aligned with them, than US. Heck, he could be one of them, and no one gives a darn. Won’t even look at the mans Kenyan birth certificate, or college records.
Pam,
Mark Levin said during WWII, the NYT wouldn’t even put the killing of Jews on the front of the paper. They buried it in the back, because they didn’t want people to know what a monster Hitler was. They haven’t changed, have they. They are still demonic. Too bad they weren’t ground zero.

aprilnovember811
aprilnovember811
13 years ago

Does anyone have the shooter’s name at Fort Bliss? I become skeptical, when it isn’t revealed.

Frank
Frank
13 years ago

“The Koran remains for all Muslims, not just fundamentalists, the uncreated word of God Himself. It is valid for all times and places; its ideas are absolutely true and beyond criticism. To question it is to question the very word of God and hence blasphemous. A Muslim’s duty is to obey its divine commands”-page 294 Why I Am not a Muslim by Ibn Warraq.
To Western-centric “tolerance” peddlers: try finding out what Islam really teaches. Just as critical analysis has been applied to other religions, especially Christianity, Islam must answer to reason in its teachings. It is already running into the hard wall of critical analysis in America in large part because the governmental system here is rooted in the Enlightenment (two legislatures, a president with a veto because of the profound questioning of human nature, especially the tendency of humans to be emotion based, to reject reason, to be “tolerant” of the that which is unreasonable).
(The problem for Islam and Muslims in America, as I have several times noted to a Muslim friend, is not going to be hate-it will be reason and critical analysis of Islam. He agreed.)

dee dee
dee dee
13 years ago

Didnt they practically ignore the Holocaust my sticking extremely small stories about it in the back pages? I glimpsed the morning program with Robin Roberts today, and she was interviewing four former bratpackers due to an anniversary of their film The Breakfast Club. When Robin asked what they learned from the storyline of the movie, the actors said they learned that all people are the same–Robin said we really really need that message in this day and age where one group is over here and another group is over there, dramatically gesturing–and then everyone agreed when Molly Ringwald said All cultures are the same. sigh. Reminds me, I happen to have a recent copy of “Star” with Demi and Ashton on the cover. On page 45 there’s a photo of Angelina Jolie in hijab attending a function in Pakistan, it says.

grungyoldvan
grungyoldvan
13 years ago

The following book review by Henrik Ræder Clausen was originally posted at Europe News, and is republished here with the author’s permission.
Found it: The Islamic Golden Age!
By Henrik R. Clausen
The Closing of the Muslim MindBook essay: The Closing of the Muslim Mind, by Robert R. Reilly.
========================================================
NY Times? No Thanks, I’d rather stick to facts and useful news… Just thought I would pass this along here to complement the earlier reference to this CFP article..
========================================================
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/27856
God’s Gift of Unalienable Rights & Article VI of the Constitution:
The Sword & Shield to Stop the Islamization of America
I think that these are must reads for everyone who wishes to find their path forward in this new world of resistance against all things “shariah”

grungyoldvan
grungyoldvan
13 years ago

islam is flushing the brainwashed minds of automatized lemmings…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Changeling_%28TOS_episode%29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1eYYGUG0k0

Allat
Allat
13 years ago

The 3rd guy fr. c. to r. looks like obama.

Joe Six-Pack
Joe Six-Pack
13 years ago

Maybe someone should bury some pig remains at the site of the GZ mosque. They will not be able to build it there with ‘dirty soil’. Some religious thing.
This may not be legal. We need to check. However, using pig remains (Or droppings) are much prefered to what we are forced to deal with. You know: Throwing rocks, beatings, rioting, killing.

Mackie
Mackie
13 years ago

Can someone make the case that the Quran is on an equal or same footing with the teachings from the New Testament?
Can anyone point to any language of what is defined as jihad towards all that are non Muslims in the Quran in the New Testament of Jesus Christ?
Robert Spencer has never said he is against Muslims,but he is against the advocacy and any implementation of sharia law in the Western World and what is taught in fundamental Islam through the Quran,hadiths and the surah.
There is a clear and unavoidable clash of civilizations between Judao/Christian Principals and Islamic teachings.
That is why we are here, that is why it is so important to recognize the distinct differences.
To understand the dramatic differences between Western Cultures and Islam, all one has to do as note that 96 percent of Islamic countries are run by dictatorships while it is the opposite for Western Democratic free nations.
The battle going on in Western Societies is to help people understand these differences.
There is no question that there is a vocal dhimmi element in our Western societies that have the medias attention one way or another who either don’t get it, have never really bothered to examine what drives fundamental Islam,or simply refuse to see what is easily occurring in Countries like France,Britain,the Netherlands.
I’ve always found it fascinating how there are those among us who appear seemingly bright and yet they see Islam somehow through a different prism of rose colored glasses.
The information is at times overwhelming on a daily basis when one recognizes the Islamic Jihad activity that is occurring all over the world from Mindanao in the Phillipines to Lebanon,Somalia,Kenya,among just a few.
There is this tendency to blame all the jihad activity on Al Qaeda but the fact is there are at least 35 major Islamic terrorist organizations recognized by the US State Department that do not have Al Qaeda Connections.
I’m glad my last name is not spelled the same as the writer of the article.

Majumder
Majumder
13 years ago

The New York Times always favors Islam. There is nothing new about that!
Times’ reporters are chosen based on their unwritten affirmation that Islam is a great religion, which is also similar to American government’s faith in Islam.
By virtue of the above practice, America is being Islamized sooner rather than later.
Now, daily readership of Times is dwindling.
As a result, the very concept of Islamization of America is in vogue with Times’ journalists as two types of English-speaking readers still subscribe the New York Times:
(1) People who do not like to think deeply beyond their well-salaried professions, and
(2) People who actually want Islamization of America by building mosques as many as possible and changing American civics courses to glorify and uplift Islamic doctrines in school classrooms, Islamic studies departments at colleges and universities, invoking Islamic prayers in every official atmosphere.

wri7913
wri7913
13 years ago

I heard it was the husband of some woman who went ballistic. How they got a gun on base unclaimed or still on their person isn’t known. Military Police screwed up…. BIG TIME! I’m sure heads will roll once they find out what exactly happened.

Majumder
Majumder
13 years ago

Clash of civilization began with Prophet Muhammad’s declaration to Umar — future Caliph of Islam.
“I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslims,” Muhammad declared to ’Umar (4366). http://voi.org/books/uith/ch9.htm
That was the beginning.
But, what perpetuates Islam is lure of plunder.
http://voi.org/books/uith/ch9.htm
Despite the pious rhetoric, material incentives had to be provided. The lure of plunder was a great motivating force, all the more powerful because of the religious phraseology. In fact, Muhammad fully satisfied this motive and constantly appealed to it. He reminded the believers of how they “slew a part [of their enemies] and another part made captive”; and how Allah gave them “their [enemies’] land, and their dwellings, and their property for an inheritance” (QurAn 33:26-27).
Unlike any other totalitarian system where military power is centralized, Islam uses a de-centralized form of military activities where ordinary Muslims who commit Jihad against Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, and Jews do not have to be always connected to a central military authority.
So, we often hear American government is making totally meaningless comments such as America is against al-Qaeda, but not against Islam.
But, everyone should know that al-Qaeda or any other Islamic organization such as ASMA or CAIR or Hamas or Islamic Brotherhood is nothing but independent Jihad-component of Islam.

nautiusmaximus
nautiusmaximus
13 years ago

I know people don’t want to hear this, but the only thing that will save the USA is a constitutional ammendment baning Islam. Even those non-Muslims who say they are against it will secretly be for it. We must attack them on the level that their prophet was an epileptic child molester. That the ones who are “intolerant” are the Muslims. There is an element within Islam that would kill all of us, and feel good about it. Those “moderates” would not lift a finger to stop them.

Fscarn
Fscarn
13 years ago

Pamela wrote, “In an incomprehensible moral equivocation, The NY Times is equating our rally against the 15-story mega mosque to be built on the site of a building that was partially destroyed in the attacks on September 11 in the name of Islam, with the slaughter and persecution of Christians and the church in Indonesia.”
The NYT is very much of this world. So why are we surprised by this behavior. Such was long ago prophesied (by a REAL prophet, not an Islamic phony!).
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.”
Isaiah 5:20,

Infidels Unite
Infidels Unite
13 years ago

agreed

Richard
Richard
13 years ago

“They always say you should read what the enemy says about you so you are knowledgeable about what they are thinking.”
And that is the very reason I own a Qur’an.
Beer Me
-Rick

Miss American Pie
Miss American Pie
13 years ago

AMEN!!!

knightemplar2
knightemplar2
13 years ago

She added, “We do not want to be like Afghanistan under the Taliban.”
Caught on Camera: Taliban shoot and kill couple accused of adultery.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/07/taliban-vermins.html

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