HANNITY: Geller vs Gross on Ground Zero Mosque

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Eldin
Eldin
13 years ago

I’m a Bosnian Muslim and i think this Mosque being built this close to Ground Zero seems to deliberate by the backers/founders of the Cordoba House to open up the wounds of the victims of 9/11 .. But tieing Islam to Terrorism is just adding fuel to fire and in a older article about Genocide in Bosnia it was hard to sort out but were you denying some of the biggest crimes commited in Bosnia by the Serbs ? Pamela PLEASE Answer with your opinion , you offer interesting debate.

Aaronjw72
Aaronjw72
13 years ago

Hey nice work today. Here is some potentially helpful stuff.
first, you are right about this being a historic site. In fact there is a law about the federal government having the power to step in to protect this land. well half of it, anyway. i write out the argument, here: http://allergic2bull.blogspot.com/2010/08/how-federal-government-could-prevent.html
And while i am less impressed with the crazy of the Ground Zero imam than you are, i still fisk him pretty harshly, here: http://allergic2bull.blogspot.com/2010/08/fisking-gzm-imam.html
There are some creepy, creepy undertones. he give me the vibe of barely hidden radicalism.
But on his face… maybe i have known to many lefties, but this is not terribly new.

Robert W.
Robert W.
13 years ago

Thought Experiment: Imagine if Timothy McVeigh’s family & friends proposed a “Tolerance Center” right near where the Oklahoma City bombing occurred. Do you think Mr. Gross would be defending that? Not a chance in the world! People like him are Extreme Hypocrites!!!

Fitna
Fitna
13 years ago

Awesome job Pamela, especially the part where he tried to call you a bigot and you wouldn’t give him any chance to make his comment stick. Your fists were raining down on him and never let up-that’s why he looked so exasperated and beaten at the end.
I think your line of attack was excellent-its too bad there wasn’t enough time, because you came very close to calling out the muslims on their hatred, insensitively and bigotry towards non-muslims and especially Jews.
Sean also made an excellent point about tolerance being only a one-way street for muslims, but that liberal dimwit couldn’t grasp the simple idea that we should not be showing tolerance to those who are intolerant towards us, looks like he needs to re-do 5th grade.
Still it was fun to watch a leftard being ganged-up on the way they do to conservatives on their liberal shows. lol

ParahSalin
ParahSalin
13 years ago

It’s guests like Michael Grotesque that lend credence to the idea that FOXNews goes out of its way to find the most unappealing advocates for wrongheaded positions.

Pv
Pv
13 years ago

Eldin…your grand, grand parents were raped, tortured and killed by Turks…before they became muslims by force and the threat of being killed…it is time fore you to understand your history and turn away from evil…find yourself a true God…

Northstar
Northstar
13 years ago

This guy is an idiot. Pamela you go girl!!!

Eldin
Eldin
13 years ago

It was the Austro-Hungarians who also killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims in the Balkans … True god I’ll stick with the god i have NOW .. I commend all that

Ecosse
Ecosse
13 years ago

remind me never to get on pamela’s wrong side! ; )
well done!

SpeakPlainly
SpeakPlainly
13 years ago

“Islamophobia” is the smear-meme of the day in several Democrat-affiliated news outlets.
Let’s make the continual smear of “Islamophobia” backfire on them by making people realize what they mean by it.
Islamophobia: Blaming the victim for distrusting the attacker.

Azygos
Azygos
13 years ago

So now the true eldin comes out. It is probably angry because Pam seeks to help mulsims find a life outside their death cult. And elidiot, muslim is not a race.
Pam,
You probably know you were slandered on O’reilly tonight by the terrorist organization CAIR. I say you need to demand equal time to answer their asinine charges against you. You are taking a lot of flak, you must be over the target.
Gd Bless you Pam.

NoHammerNoSickl
NoHammerNoSickl
13 years ago

It is not racist to oppose building something that is aggressively provocative and claim that it’s some sort of attempt at tolerance and bridge-building. (Btw, if I hear these fools say the Victory Mosque Imam is bridge-builder again, I’m going to damage some of my property).
America has been accused of being primed for an anti-Islamic backlash for the last decade, yet the biggest threat to American Muslims seems to me to be other Muslims in the U.S. Rifqa Bary’s parents threatened to kill her for leaving Islam. Noor Almaleki was killed by her father for being too westernized. There are countless examples of this and zero examples of American on Muslim violence or backlash.
The people who are vocally opposing the Victory Mosque are doing so because it is in bad taste for Muslims to put it in a place where their fellow believers killed 3,000 people. Peacefully speaking out against this does not make one a racist or intolerant.
“And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not perceive the plank in your own eye? “Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me remove the speck that is in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck that is in your brother’s eye.”
Luke 6:41-42

Mackie
Mackie
13 years ago

Couldn’t hold it in could you Eldin. What was that about 24 minutes before you began your viscous diatribe against Pamela.
2. Pamela has never said she hates Muslims
3. Pamela has never demonstrated or ever said she hates black people.
4. Pamela has never said “a good Muslim is a dead Muslim”
5. By the way if 5 pct of Muslims are terrorists that represents about 60 million Muslims.
6. When it comes to Israel, I thank God she is a strong supporter of Israel, after all that little postage stamp of a country is surrounded by Muslim Countries that are a thousand times bigger than Israel and yet somehow the only true democracy in the region is a threat to Islam?
By the Eldin the Jews where there over a thousand years before Jesus and nearly 2000 years before Mohammed created Islam.
So take your hate filled propaganda and go troll someplace else this site will not smile on you no matter what lies you try to fabricate.

frank
frank
13 years ago

Boycott Fox News. Direct ties to terrorists like Alwaleed bin Talal! The dude owns 7% of NewsCorp! Unbelievable.

M.A.
M.A.
13 years ago

Pamela Geller,
You are a very destructive woman. You people are bigots and do not belong in this country. I am ashamed that you call yourself Americans. Pamela you are doing this strictly for political purposes and you make yourself look like the biggest bigot of them all. When you actually read about this Iman and this mosque you understand what Fox and Gellar are doing and leading the cattle for their political purposes. People, if this were a Christian church and 9/11 were caused by white Christians, you would not be singing this same tune. This man is a good man and he is not traveling to raise money for his mosque. Speakers for the State Dept. are strictly forbidden to raise any money for anything. NOT ALLOWED! So for you to say that is what he is doing is a blatant lie! By trying to alter where this mosque is being built goes against the core of this country and ugh! the Constitution. You people are “cherry picking” what you want to believe in when it comes to the Law and the ugh! Constitution. You cannot “cherry pick” the law. If it suits what you want at the moment then we use it, otherwise we go against it. Why don’t you just change mosque to church and Islam to Christianity, and then look at this issue! Then you will see what bigots you are. Shame, Shame on you for calling yourselves Americans! Terroists today and smiling because of you people and your sick beliefs. GEllar you are worst of the bunch, because you are using your position to influence those who cannot think for themselves!!!

k9gs
k9gs
13 years ago

Mr. Gross is an asshole. It was kinda pathetic to see him use the same ol tirades, he is like an actor citing his lines.
I have found two more people that fell into the dog and pony show trap of the usual rhetoric, once I sent them some links and they saw the real Islam, they changed their minds quickly. Thanks Pamela!

Yidwithlid
Yidwithlid
13 years ago

Great Job Pamela…I think for his next Hannity Appearance Mr Gross should wear a condom on his head….after all if he is going to act like a dick he should look like one too

Opus #6
Opus #6
13 years ago

It is YOU who are a destructive person. You keep building a straw man to attack, attributing hateful speech to Pamela. Wrong, Jimbo.
Geller reports the news of Jihad attacks. But some don’t want to hear it.
Why don’t you read about some acid attacks against women and tell me how peaceful islam is:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/women-in-islam/islamic-barbarism-disfiguring-women-by-acid-attack-part-2/

Opus #6
Opus #6
13 years ago

Pamela, you won the debate. Hand down.

sarah
sarah
13 years ago

you’re wrong, buddy. Pope John Paul 2 ruled against a convent at auschwitz. it’s not about islam, its about compassion.

sarah
sarah
13 years ago

yasher koach !

Go-Pamela!
Go-Pamela!
13 years ago

Pamela is a hero. Unlike the Islamists, Christians aren’t going around the world blowing up buildings and murdering people.

Cate
Cate
13 years ago

Gross can’t put together a decent argument. He just couldn’t do it. He HAD to look angry, because that’s all he had. Pamela…once again, FANTASTIC JOB!!!!
And M.A. – Don’t you get it? If you are not a muzzie, then you are marked for death. Muzzies don’t LIKE you. They HATE you. And people like you who won’t fight, will be the first to have your head hacked off by extremist muzzies, if sharia gets a hold in this country. I’m ashamed of people like you, who continually choose to bury your head in the sand, and imagine that there’s nothing wrong, when there clearly is. Go ahead, keep on imagining that Islam is all about love and peace, unicorns and sunbeams. What a crock of BS, and you know it.

Pv
Pv
13 years ago

Well yoldin…Apparently they didn’t kill enough…Have you got no honor?..I am telling you, your grandfathers and grandmothers were gang-raped by turks…that’s why you got no brains to think on your own now…

jane
jane
13 years ago

More like Islamo-get-real-ia, Islamo-holy-crap-ia, Islamo-wtf-ia, Isla-mo-did-what?-ia

Deus_Vult!
Deus_Vult!
13 years ago

Outstanding work Pamela! You are a true American hero! You are like Victor Lazlow from the movie “Casablanca”……
I will be at the rally September 11th, to help fight the good fight for America.

jane
jane
13 years ago

Michael Medved had some islamo-apologist taqiya-ing away heartily about the mosque, and Medved said Rauf was no radical, he was a moderate! This guy must be another self-loather, he lies constantly as a fake-conservative.

sheik yer'mami
sheik yer'mami
13 years ago

Love you, Pamela!
That’s the fighting spirit we need! What a bleeding hearts ‘tolerance’ dimwit! What a loon! He thinks its perfectly okay for the Muzz to be the way they are but we should embrace their hatred and resentment as if it didn’t exist!
Then he invoked the pope and Bush, what a nutcase!

duh_swami
duh_swami
13 years ago

Gross is aptly named…What a pig…He needs an attitude adjustment…

sheik yer'mami
sheik yer'mami
13 years ago

Winds of Jihad reader Steiner nailed it the other day when he posted this:
There is a tendency for people to say that because we dont want to be like Saudi Arabia, then we must allow the mosque to be built…
The message is that because we are democratic, then we must be true to respecting religious freedoms and allow mosques to continue being built.
Saudi Arabia is undemocratic and wont allow non-Muslim religious buildings to be built.
The shallowness of the statement is recognized when we ask why Saudi Arabia does not allow non-muslim places of worship to be built. Consequently, the reason is because they are islamic!
Hence, if we dont want to be like Saudi Arabia, it’s high time that we stop mosques being built because Islam does not tolerate non-muslim places of worship. To continue to allow more mosques is tantamount to being like Saudi Arabia!
To every rule there is an exception. Our democracies cannot survive with a growing Islam in our midst. Hence, the exception…no more mosques…otherwise we will become like..you guessed it: Saudi Arabia!

sheik yer'mami
sheik yer'mami
13 years ago

Beautiful:
Andrew Bolt linked to you, (that’s Australia’s most popular blog with 2 million hits a month!)
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/imam_america_bloodier_than_al_qaeda/

Joel Mendelson
Joel Mendelson
13 years ago

Another Islamo-Kapo-Nazi bites the dust in the realm of political reality … good riddance. Let him suck an egg. QED.

MARTEL
MARTEL
13 years ago

You are a dumb shit boy, what the hell are you doing coming around here with your bullshit. Cram it. islame IS terrorism and we do NOT need your “help” or your bullshit. Debate is OVER. We know what you are and who you are and what you are up to and your tactics. Beat it.

Telly
Telly
13 years ago

Exactly.
False choice fallocy???
What else have they got?

aanders
aanders
13 years ago

It’s a big side to be on!

MARTEL
MARTEL
13 years ago

M.A. does that stand for “MY ASS”. Every single word you just wrote is total BULLSHIT and we’re on to you and your bullshit and your tactics. The debate is OVER. People have made up their minds by getting educated, and, to know, know, know you is to loathe, loathe, loathe you and I do, and I do, and I do. Screw you and screw your bullshit.

MARTEL
MARTEL
13 years ago

Does this guy look like a cartoon character or what? What an IMBECILE! I was literally laughing my ASS off at him as Pamela just TOOK HIM APART. OOOHHH the anger, the outrage – HILARIOUS. The old curmudgeon couldn’t even shave for a TV appearance either. Looked like he just got out of bed. I approve. Awesome Pameleh, kicking ass with the TRUTH.

madmath1
madmath1
13 years ago

Boy, that man was a complete A$$ wipe. I would had slug him when he said “I don’t want them to be tolerant, I want you to be tolerant.” Again, let the Muzzies be above the law, here of tolerance. This the argument that liberals constandly make, that having tolerance for evil puts you on the higher moral ground. This is more Islamic supremism and that man is not only stupid, but evil and dangerous.

Sylvie7
Sylvie7
13 years ago

You are trying to change the point. We all know about the “hair trigger” reactions of Muslims whenever they perceive an affront or an insult. This mosque is an affront to a lot of Americans, New Yorkers in particular. If the organizers were honest about their intentions they would not develop this building, in this place. Mr. Michael Gross lives in another era. He doesn’t understand what is happening around him and apparently neither do you.
This conflict is not as simple as denouncing Father Coglin, who ignored the fact that Jesus and all those around him were Jews. The terrorists who killed 3000 people, did it in the name of their religion. Demanding that this mosque not stand two blocks away from the carnage is not proclaiming hatred toward every Muslim in the United States. Whenever non Muslims oppose what Muslims want the words HATRED and ISLAMOPHOBIA immediately rear their ugly heads. That demonstrates the same black and white thinking that Muslims use against Christians and others in Muslim dominated countries. Why do Coptic Christians have so many problems building new churches in Egypt? Americans should not be intimidated so easily. Pamela may not sugar coat her opinions but she is right and couragous.

Steve
Steve
13 years ago

Just remember, Mohammed came flying out of that cave talking about having seen demonic visions and his wife(?), (whatever she was,) convinced him his visions were NOT demonic…. (See any thing similar to the Adam/Eve but with a twist?)
That’s how the devil works. Take what G_d made Holy, and pervert it.
NONE of the so called ‘debates’ ever get to the point where they let poeple that KNOW the Koran (QURAN, whatever,) tell about what’s REALLY in the so called holy word of alotofgarbage. Why? Like Pam said, “Truth is the new hate speech.”

Fitna
Fitna
13 years ago

rofl and make his face look even more squished and contorted than it already is? that could be interesting.

Telly
Telly
13 years ago

It’s time for Feisal to man-up and face off with Pamela.
But like Laura Ingram said today “he’s hiding behind his wife.” (HA!)
Who says boycott Fox. Today has been the most entertaining TV news day in as long as I can remember. Starting of course with Pam’s face off with Michael Gross.
(I actually feel sorry for this bitter and confused elderly man. He is looking back at a wasted life with nothing but hatred to show for his entire existence. His family really should keep him at home and take better care of him.)

JustSaying
JustSaying
13 years ago

This is a must watch for those on both sides of the Mosque issue. It’s a Ground Zero Mosque Reality Check for real. You won’t be sorry – more than well worth the listen and even pass on to others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg_iDPRud_c&feature=player_embedded

canasia_us
canasia_us
13 years ago

Pam, I was so thrilled to hear you with the fire in your voice in this clip. This is what we all have to do to stand up to these a__hole liberal facilitators of Islamic terrorism and jihad. We’re sick and tired of the lies, the bigotry and the bull that comes spewing forth from their ignorant mouths as soon as they open them. They may have the right to say it but we have the right not to listen to it any more. They are ruining this country, as well as many others, and we just don’t need to hear it.

Margie
Margie
13 years ago

This man’s face is enough to stop a clock. Good going Pamela, always enjoy seeing you stand up for TRUTH. Thanks to Hannity for having you on. You looked sharp as a tack. Keep up the good work for all of us, who are against this abomination at ground zero. America will not stand for Sharia tolerant either. VICTORY is ahead. TRUTH WILL PREVAIL always.

Darlene
Darlene
13 years ago

Loved you telling a Free Speech lawyer to let someone speak besides himself–absolutely perfect and it stopped him in his tracks. You were magnificent!!! We are so proud of you and thankful for you Pamela.
They seem to want to hide behind irrelevant issues and charges like racism, and religious freedom no matter because they have no reason they want to admit to as to why they should build this mosque at that place. The need for a mosque there is nil. Very few muslims in that area, it is not a residential area but a commercial area and there are already two mosques in the area. It is to gloat over the terrorist attack on 9-11 period. But they cant and wont admit that so they throw out these false accusation and name call. When your opponents start name calling you have won.
Please note they do not mention the Christian chruch, St. Nicholas, that was damaged in the 9-11 attack and that has been trying without sucess to rebuild for nine years. That to me sums up the religious intolerance issue.

Choi
Choi
13 years ago

Medved is getting increasingly more FULL of SHEEETE.

Choi
Choi
13 years ago

Pamela is not only OVER the TARGET,but She’s PLASTERING THE TARGET!

Indian
Indian
13 years ago

Pamela youre doing a great service to humanity, including muslims.
thanks a ton! my grandchildren will have nobody but to thank you for their peace and freedom a few decades later…

Choi
Choi
13 years ago

Pamela not only took that”angry” Lefty TOOL apart,but his palpable ANGER & FRUSTRATION at his LEFTY BAG of VERBAL TRICKS not only being INEFFECTIVE against Pamela and THE TRUTH,but wasfurther fed by his realization that the more he spouted his “ONE-TRICK PONY” Mantra, the more RIDICULOUS he looked.

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