Lord of the pig people
Atlas readers are quite familiar now with "Lord" Nazi. He is the jihadi who threatened the House of Lords with protests and demonstrations if they did not cancel their invitation to Geert Wilders to screen FITNA. They submitted to the manslaughterer Lord Nazir Ahmed and bowed before Islam. But yesterday free men prevailed and the House of Lords reversed their reversal. whew.
Now this from the jihad manslaughterer:
IDF (hat tip Gudrun)
Lord Nazir Ahmed is one of
Britain's most prominent Muslim leaders. This week, he questioned the British
government about concerns that British Jews may have served in the Israeli
Defense Force during Operation Cast Lead – the three-week bombardment of Gaza.
Lord Ahmed's questions have brought attention to an issue that has
significant legal and political implications but which few want to discuss in
The following is an exclusive Press TV interview with Lord
Press TV: Lord Nazir Ahmed, you raised question in Parliament about the
legal implications of British Jews serving in the IDF. What was the response?
Lord Ahmed: I asked Her Majesty's government if they were aware
of British citizens who may have been involved with the war crimes committed by
the Israeli Defense Force and Israeli Defense Reserves. Her Majesty's government
did not have any figures because dual nationals do not have to inform the
government. However, there are reports in the Daily Mirror and The
Sun with the names of British citizens who have been fighting in Gaza.
The point I was making is that war crimes have been committed, white
phosphorous has been used and if there are people who have broken the 4th Geneva
Convention, then whoever they are, when they return to this country, they should
be arrested and charged – unlike the Major General who escaped in 2005.
Press TV: Are you certain these are up to date reports about
British citizens serving in Israel?
Lord Ahmed: These are very
new reports, dated January 2009, of British citizens who have gone out to fight
against the Palestinian people as part of the IDF. Their names and ages are
mentioned in these reports.
We know that there are student unions that have
been actively recruiting young people in Britain to join the Israeli Defense
Force and we also know that there are young Jewish students who go and serve on
the kibbutz and also in schools, who are also then doing national service in
How many of those have been involved in war crimes? How many of
those have broken the Geneva Convention? When they come back to this country, we
want our government to take some legal action against them.
TV: Will our government take such action?
Lord Ahmed: Yes –
if there is evidence and if the United Nations is strong enough. At the moment
they have not even decided how they are going to conduct this independent
investigation into the use of white phosphorous and other weapons prohibited by
the United Nations.
There is very clear evidence that the 4th Geneva
Convention has been breached – we know there was collective punishment,
excessive and disproportionate use of force against civilians and deliberate
attacks on schools, hospitals and ambulances. There have even been attacks on
UNRWA personnel and warehouses.
If the United Nations makes a statement
or if someone goes to the courts and gets an order against these people then I
am sure the government has to take some legal action.
Were you surprised by the response from the government?
Ahmed: I am not surprised at all. Lord Malloch-Brown did actually say that
there is any evidence of the 4th Geneva Convention being breached, and it
doesn't matter whether they are British citizens or whether they are other
nationalities, these people will be arrested and they will be tried in this
Press TV: How do you think the British Jewish community
will react to such a move?
Lord Ahmed: Well the reaction was very
obvious. One of their lordships got up and started to praise the British
citizens who were fighting in Gaza. He said: shouldn't we be proud of the fact
they are fighting against terrorists who are hell bent on trying to destroy
But they are not fighting against a terrorist organization as
such. The IDF and those who serve in it have been involved in the massacre of
civilians, including hundreds of Palestinian children and attacks on the United
Nations and even the American school. There is just no excuse for anyone to get
away from these war crimes this time.
Press TV: Is this situation
comparable to British Muslims allegedly going to fight in foreign conflicts?
Lord Ahmed: There have been many government statements with
regards to British Muslims going abroad to foreign madrasahs and then seeking
training. There was a huge outcry across the board – from government officials,
politicians and civil society.
Of course, we do not support anyone who
has been involved with terrorism or killing of innocent civilians anywhere, or
those who fight British troops abroad.
However, to me there is no
difference whether the young person is from a Jewish background or Muslim
background. The only difference is that one has a uniform and the other does
not. Both kill innocent civilians. Both need to be brought justice.
is why Baroness Tongue asked the question about the number of British youth who
go to religious Jewish schools and also the kibbutz. In this case, it is a
double standard to allow young British citizens of whatever religion, who go to
religious schools and then get involved in armed conflicts and join a terrorist
The very fact that in both cases, they kill innocent civilians,
including children warrants a fresh look at this issue, as was recommended by
Lord Wallace of Saltaire.
UPDATE: Lord Ahmed must be Prosecuted for Treason Cranmer (hat tip Kat)
bring a horde of 10,000
Muslims upon Parliament in order to stifle debate and bully it into
submission is no ‘moderate’. By threatening this, Lord Ahmed has shown himself
to be one of the very extremists he purports to eschew, committed to the same
ideology as those who seek to impose Shari’a law upon the UK and subjugate the
kuffar to the will of Allah. He is of the very mindset of those imams imported
from Pakistan who poison the minds of Britain’s Muslim youth and distort the
teachings of the Qur’an for their own warped ends. He is an arrogant bully,
manifestly used to getting his own way, and he lords it over their Lordships to
the extent that his religio-political adherence exhorts him to do so.
Well, Lord Ahmed, this is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
Northern Ireland, and we do things differently here.
The rule of law
must be maintained.
Felony Act 1848 is, however, quite a different statutory instrument, and
it is still in force (notwithstanding that the death penalty has been
Treason laws were used against Irish insurgents before Irish
independence. But it is noteworthy that members of the IRA and other republican
terrorist groups were not prosecuted for treason but for murder and terrorist
Is not threatening to bring a horde of 10,000 protesting
Muslims upon Parliament an act of terrorism? Fear would certainly be a
consequence – doubtless the sort which would have the police withdrawing in fear
for their own safety and security. But if this is not a threat of terrorism,
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