The War for Freedom on the streets of Stockholm

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Stockholm fascists 

Today heralded the dawning of a new era of cooperation between pro-freedom groups in Europe, the United States, Australia and elsewhere. Freedom fighters from around the world converged in Stockholm to stand with one voice against oppression, tyranny and fascism. And the fascist thugs were out in force: police at one point found a suspicious package from the Leftists, and examined it out of concern that it was a bomb. It turned out to be a large firecracker, but clearly the Left-fascist who left it wanted police to think it was a bomb, and to create an atmosphere of menace and terror so that people would be too frightened to attend our event. Swedish police in riot gear cordoned off the area of our rally on both sides, and blocked entrance to it with police vans. But while the Leftist media, which swarmed around our event like jackals, will tell you that we are the threat, the police had to face violence only from the Leftist protesters. Desperate that our message of freedom not be heard, they blew vuvuzelas, screamed bloody murder, chanted "EDL go to hell" and kept up a constant din — while throwing eggs and firecrackers at the police and at any pro-freedom activist who got too close to them. One firecracker exploded in a policeman's face; he had to be taken away in an ambulance.

Nonetheless, several hundred people braved the Leftist thugs and the police barricades, and joined us, unbowed and resolutely determined to stand for freedom and truth. When Robert Spencer and I got out of the car, the crowd started applauding, and so many people came up to us to express their gratitude for our work — it was humbling and gratifying. The enemedia was out in force as well, taking hundreds and hundreds of pictures of us, no doubt in an attempt to find the very worst shots, and inundating Robert and me with interview questions attempting to smear us as racists and inciting to murder. But it was noteworthy in itself that the media was there at all: in Europe this was a huge story (even Turkish media was there), while in the U.S. the media seems determined to ignore the issue of Islamic supremacist encroachment upon our freedoms.

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There was a series of speakers from around the world. I explained to the freedom fighters who came to hear us speak that the battle is for individual rights. It is not a religious war, it is a fight for the smallest minority in the world, the individual, and we are fighting for what is good and what is right. We are right, they are wrong, and wrong is evil and anti-life. After I kicked off the event and Robert spoke ("Tolerance of the intolerant is suicidal"), Tommy Robinson gave a rousing speech on our need to defend free societies. He was then followed by representatives of Defense Leagues from all over Europe, as well as from the Q Society in Australia, and Paul Weston of the British Freedom Party. In the crowd were people from across Europe and the world — including a freedom-lover who attended our Jessica Mokdad Conference on Honor Killing in Dearborn in April, and who came to Stockholm from Poland for this event, and a hearty group of ex-Muslims from Iran who told me that a huge number of people in Iran are fed up with the Islamic Republic and Islam in general — but Barack Obama let them down in 2009.

All in all, today was a key turning point in this ugly and vicious war in which we find ourselves engaged. Once again the Leftist goons showed their true face, as did we. We will not be intimidated and we will stand for freedom no matter what. We made great strides in forging a true and lasting transatlantic (and transpacific as well) counter-jihad alliance. This is just the beginning.

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Tommy Robinson, Pamela Geller, Anders Gravers

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Followed by Spencer
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Former Muslims from Iran

I have much more to tell, but I have to go meet with the heads of the five families…lol. I'll have more pictures and videos, but first, all the leaders of the various groups are getting together this evening to strategize and plan for the future. This was a fantastic beginning.

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Update: Email from Göran P.

Dear Pamela!

Did you get away from the meeting in one peace and alive? It was awful to see all these left-wing loonies screaming and yelling. 
I went to Stockholm after five hours by train. When I arrived to Norra Bantorget the police had already closed the area! By security reasons they
didn't let me in! Soon enough I was surrounded by perhaps 50-100 of those screaming idiots. I had to behave like a confused tourist so the mob wouldn't lynch me. 
I'm so sorry we couldn't meet today – something I had been locking forward to so long. Now I'm home again after five more hours on train – so I will fall aslead easily tonight.
Hope you don't get nightmares after the events today. As swede I'm ashamed over these idiots, but I guess socialists behave the same way – as savagers – in every country.
Please confirm that you and the other freedem-fighters got away without injuries.
May God and the angels protect you every hour, every day…..
Yours truly

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An injured policeman is helped by colleagues after being hit in the face by missiles thrown by leftist goons and islamic supremacists.

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JATD
JAT
11 years ago

I’ve been following the discussion boards from Sweden. They are very upset and shamed that more people did not attend the event – and have promised they will come in bigger numbers next time.

Gleaner1
Gleaner1
11 years ago

Well done all of you for crossing the pond, lets see where this event leads.
I hope it leads to simultaneous demonstrations in as many towns and cities throughout Europe as possible, staged of course by local people who are aware of
their situation re the selling out of their culture and countries future to Islamic colonists.
Just wondering, would HMG admit Pam and Robert-after all, HMG did turn back Mr Wilders.
Admired the security guys you two brought with you, did their protection extend to Tommy Robinson and the others?

Janne Melin
Janne Melin
11 years ago

Fantastic! I’m so glad, this is a new beginning to cast out the islamic settlers!

gerard
gerard
11 years ago

The photo shows the hounds of hell screaming while the peaceful friends of Pamela and Robert tell their tale. When the Angels sing the Demons howl.

James Linnstrom II
James Linnstrom II
11 years ago

Hooray for Pamela, our Wonder Woman! Freedom wins the day in Stockholm.

winstonclein
winstonclein
11 years ago

Love you Pam. We really appreciate your hard work.

Jamadagnii
Jamadagnii
11 years ago

It’s a great day for the people in Sweden, and everywhere else, to see that there are people who are willing to fight to preserve freedom and Western civilization. It’s amazing to see those people from Iran. Incredible! This event gives me a hopeful feeling.

Sounder
Sounder
11 years ago

Why do so many people absolutely want the demise of their own country and society?

Janne
Janne
11 years ago

Thanks for your comment to the Aftonbladet TV reporter. She got very quiet and it was enjoyable to see. Lots of people commented on that on various blogs and discussion threads.

Brandy
Brandy
11 years ago

So proud of everyone who attended! Wish I could have been there.
Courageous!
Tireless!
Fearless!

David
David
11 years ago

“Super Heroes Arrive in Stockholm” Thanks to all of you for your righteous work!

Katherine
Katherine
11 years ago

What David said!

JATD
JAT
11 years ago

Raw TV clips from Swedish Live TV showing the meeting in Stockholm and demoonstrations (shared by Martin in Sweden):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVYhC2ac2UM&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOjnbVGjdKg&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIT0c5PmbWM&feature=plcp
(It looks like the demonstrators are a group of hippies!)

InfidelForLife
InfidelForLife
11 years ago

Violence and slander – the “argument” of the morally and intellectually bankrupt. This proves once again that the Left has absolutely nothing to bring to the table: no facts, no arguments, no truths, no proof, in short nothing of any value whatsoever.
I like the pictures – and I especially like the expression on the face of Tommy Robinson. He has a bit of Churchill’s determination and courage in his face. And that’s a good thing.
Great work, Pamela and Robert! Massive respect.

Annie
Annie
11 years ago

Modern day super hero’s!

Mimi
Mimi
11 years ago

The police blocked off the meeting. People were turned back and not allowed to get through the picket lines. There would have been many more people of the place weren’t blocked off.

Alex
Alex
11 years ago

I always wonder what is the source of Pamela’s and Robert’s incredible courage.

Sarah
Sarah
11 years ago

Bravo for this and all that you do, for your tireless fight for truth and freedom.

Linda Rivera
Linda Rivera
11 years ago

Thank you so very much to all you brave heroes, Pamela, Robert, Paul Weston, Tommy Robinson, Kevin Carroll and to all of the other brave heroes! We LOVE all of you!
Long live the Free World!

Tom
Tom
11 years ago

I believe that all your friends and supporters are thrilled with your success. I know I am!! Thank you for all you, Robert, Tommy Robinson and the many other Freedom Fighters that joined you have demonstrated. Your courage is amazing. And admired!!

man_in_tx
man_in_tx
11 years ago

Ms Geller
Edmund Burke is reported to have said something like, “All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
Thank you, Ms Geller, for NOT doing NOTHING…. in spades!
Kudos to you, Robert, Tommy, et al!
Don’t give up the fight!

Choi
Choi
11 years ago

“I always wonder what is the source of Pamela’s and Robert’s incredible courage.”
Posted by: Alex
God Given (in any order))Character,Sincerity,Honesty,RIGHTOUS and TRUE SOULS and the BEST Moral Compass, andSelf-Knowledge that they ARE FULL-FILLING THEIR DESTINIES to be WARRIORS on the side of the Angels.
Add to that their HIGH INTELLIGENCE and SKILLS,and they STAND on that wall looking EVIL in the Eye saying:”NO YOU WON’T!,despite all of the THREATS and other attempted INTIMIDATIONS.
Pamela and Robert have the courage to PUT IT ALL OUT THERE because they know,that
As Israeli/Jewish WWII Heroine Hannah Senesh said when asked why she was going to risk Parachuting into Nazi-Ocuppied Europe:”When you hear that voice asking : “Whom Shall I Send”,the answer is SEND ME”
Pamela and Robert HEAR that Voice and their answer is “SEND ME!”

Laura
Laura
11 years ago

“in Europe this was a huge story (even Turkish media was there), while in the U.S. the media seems determined to ignore the issue of Islamic supremacist encroachment upon our freedoms”.
…………………………………………………………..
This includes the pretend conservatives at FOX, WSJ, National Review, Weekly Standard et al.
How many Chick-fil-a stories have they covered while remainng silent on the muslim brotherhood operatives advising the Obama administration.

Tom
Tom
11 years ago

Thank you Choi. Well said!!

bb
bb
11 years ago

I think there has to be more talk of specific counter measures and offesnive attacks instead of always just airing grievances about Islam. They are bad and they know we know it, they just don’t know what anone is going to do about it. I think some fear has to be put in them. I think they are bullies and only respond to threats.
They are bascially laughing at and trying to spin doctor any complaints made about them. How about coming up with game plans for specific measures to be taken to derail their objectives? This is a war and needs to be fought like a war. If they want to have people’s spring uprisings in all of the Arab nations, then the regular people need to have their own against them.
Parts of Sweden are already no go zones as far as westerners. Cities like Malmo are at a standtill dealing with the iron fist of Islam. Where people are still free they need to take counter measures fast before that freedom slips away and they have no choice but to submit or die.
All of the Muslims flipping off the camera show what standards they set for themselves. They claim to be about purity and decency but express themselves with vulgarity and violence, such as throwing a firecracker in the face of a policeman on duty watching the crowd. They are the ultimate hypccrites in their ideology. Critisizing them does not make them feel shame but rather anger.
They are mainly powerless nobodies themselves. It seems the real enemies are in the system, the people letting them in the country, making them comfortable there, and then letting them get away with crimes. The bad apples in the system need to be dealt with because they are the ones with the real power.

Alex
Alex
11 years ago

Thank you Choi. You may remember Simon Deng, a former slave from Sudan who escaped from his Islamist masters and appeared with Pamela and Robert on various events. I don’t ask where his courage is coming from. He’s seen the worst of it therefore nothing else can scare him anymore. Pamela and Robert however haven’t had such experience. And still they casually shrug off daily death threats from Islamists. They might have had a peaceful and uneventful life but they chose to fight. They are true inspiration!

Choi
Choi
11 years ago

@Sujith:
You are a clever little TROLL,but NOT clever enough.
You posted your 3rd sentence KNOWING you were SLIPPING in a Justification and praise for Brevik and oh,how coincidental,HERE on Atlas Shrugs,KNOWING Pamela has been FALSELY BLAMED ,SMEARED,and LIBELED re: Brevik ,and now you attempt to CREATE another.
CHECKMATE!
The ONLY one responsible for your comment is YOU,just as ONLY Brevik is responsible for what he did.
Oh,and one more thing ,U.S.Army Drill Sergeants wear a crest with the inscription
“THIS WE’LL DEFEND”,which is how Atlas Regulars feel re: Pamela and this site.

Agnostic
Agnostic
11 years ago

@Sujith is definitely working for the bad guys.
Choi is certainly right.
Pamela, may be just take the Sujith comment down.

Nat's daughter
Nat's daughter
11 years ago

Choi, beautifully written. A very heartfelt thank you to all who spoke and attended.

Kufar Dawg
Kufar Dawg
11 years ago

@Alex
Your point about Simon Deng is certainly sobering. I can only imagine
what he’s been through. I think I remember Mr. Deng stating that his muslime
slave owners stated they would release him if he were to convert/revert to Islam?

Xthred
Xthred
11 years ago

You look fab!

Gleaner1
Gleaner1
11 years ago

As one who lived through the whole of the “cold war”, i understand, maybe better than young people, just how the socialist agenda of controling peoples willingness to speak out has been affected. The media in Sweden seems fixated on the counter protest rather than the reasons for the demonstration. This reluctance to state clearly what the problems are, for fear of confronting “the party line” led to thousands of girls being abused in Britain because it would be “against the party line” for the authorities to listen and take action. The one Labour MP that did was persecuted by her party for doing so.
This demo seems a very tame and gentle affair, nothing like England where the EDL marches are surrounded by a ring of steel and riot police . Those very young counter protesters have very shallow roots, but the middle aged people who counter protested were the ones to confront because they are more likely to vote for these subjugation policies re islam.
As to the posts on here, i thought bb’s post addressed the issues squarely and truthfully, and sujith agreed with them. I read no praise for Breivik, the first 3 lines are what we all seek in the west. Lines 4 and 5 are a statement of what happened, but does not excuse them or imply Pam or Robert were complicit.
If the authorities thought Pam or Robert inspired or incited Breivik, today both would face charges.
Although the cold war never beame a hot war in Europe, the tactic of bullying people into silence or endless apoligies HAS taken strong root, and unless and until the younger ones amoung us understand this, truth, fearless and unpleasent as it sometimes is, will be compromised, like the struggle.

David Truman
David Truman
11 years ago

God speed to you and all the SION participants. Only courage and resolution will win this war.

Carmen
Carmen
11 years ago

Why do so many people absolutely want the demise of their own country and society? – Sounder
First there is the media and hard left doing everything in their power to intimidate people into silence. There is no nasty trick too low for them to carry out. (Leftist Fascists and the jihadists have a truce and work together.) Then there is a large number of those who stick their heads in the sand. I read a post a few days ago that told it beautifully. Many in Scandinavia only care about their country cabins by the water and fishing.
Sujith
You really personify the Fascist Left. You are full of hate and lies. How filthy and low you are to pretend to be for freedom and then try to slander Pam Geller’s site with the equally evil brevik. You and brevik are of one and the same mind. You are despicable.

R.K. MacUalraig
R.K. MacUalraig
11 years ago

Ditto what David said. I’m uplifted seeing pictures of my heroes overseas rallying the allies to the fight for human liberty.

Michael Hughes
Michael Hughes
11 years ago

Well done all of you we are on our way now one step at a time can you put all the photos on your site so we can print our favorite.
PS how can some one demonstrate against Free Speech and Liberty ? See you in New York in September.

jean vercors
jean vercors
11 years ago

Hello Pamela and SPencer
TV5 Monde which is a french state owned TV
Qualify the protest against Islam “a neo fascist Gathering ”
that news is airing since this morning
http://www.tv5.org/cms/chaine-francophone/info/p-1909-L-actualite-en-video.htm?jt=jt_monde&autostart=true#jttop
http://www.tv5.org/cms/chaine-francophone/info/p-1909-L-actualite-en-video.htm?jt=jt_monde&autostart=true#jttop
the french main stream media endorsing the left goons as usual
Peace From Israel

Joy
Joy
11 years ago

God bless Pamela, Robert, Tommy, Paul, Anders and ALL the Freedom League participants who now make up SION! This is going to be one of the longest and hardest fought battles we’ll ever be in, but we simply MUST stay engaged, involved, informed and impassioned!! “You have nothing to lose but your chains!”
I’m not able to do much, but I do post a lot of this very important stuff on Facebook and Twitter, as well as my own (albeit small) email list. This info must become “News of the Day” EVERY day from here on in!!
I truly am inspired, but I’m also saddened to know that even among otherwise well-educated and well-informed (to an extent) friends, even THEY do not realize what’s coming at them down the road!! They are in totally blissful ignorance, which is even sadder, ’cause they do NOT know what’s in store for their children and grandchildren if we don’t defeat this ugly and pernicious cancer called pisslam that is rotting out Western Civilization!
Will it take another 9-11 to wake us up? Actually, the islamization of our country is proceding at quite a pace, thanks to the treachery and pertidy of our Traitor-in-Chief and his many Muslim Brotherhood minions already in positions of power & influence in our gov’t!

fern
fern
11 years ago

Video. Pamela and Robert speak http://youtu.be/dma-eK7E6hU

Birgitta
Birgitta
11 years ago

Only thing sad is that there wasn’t any Swedish flag among the other flags.
Any one heard of this before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6FjrEKPzIM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

fern
fern
11 years ago

Birgitta. Thanks for that vid x. So they threaten bloodshed if Russia does not give them Sharia. I note the Russian Orthodox Church (Chaplain in their media dept) gave their tacit approval for Sharia. Same old same old, leaders of other faiths are leading islam by the hand down the path of our own destruction. You couldn’t make it up. I am kidding myself if I believe all this will end peacefully.

fern
fern
11 years ago

quote:
Pamela Geller, a leader of groups Stop Islamization of Nations and Stop Islamization of America, said the movement was planning to hold a conference in New York on September 11.
“It’s very important that it goes global because what we are fighting is a global ideology,” she said.
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/news/international/Sweden_counter-jihad_rally_outnumbered_by_anti-racists.html?cid=33245130

Annie
Annie
11 years ago

Why on earth does the left want to live under islamic control? For them to support islam. makes absolutely no sense. Makes no sense that any European wants to have another culture destroy their very homeland, culture, and freedom.

Birgitta
Birgitta
11 years ago
ahem
ahem
11 years ago

Bless you two for doing this; trukly, G-d is on your side. I notice Tommy never really smiles in his photos; these bastards are really getting to him.
By the way, anything we can do for that poor policeman? He didn’t deserve that.

Birgitta
Birgitta
11 years ago

Perhaps interesting for some of you. Used Google translate. The text is from:
http://gudmundson.blogspot.se/2012/08/mohamed-moummous-son-omhandertagen.html
Mohamed Moummous son looked – would go to warAppeal in Stockholm held June 18th Administrative Court’s decision of 28 May, upon application by the Social Services Committee, to immediately take possession of a certain Abdullah Moummou, born in 1995, according to LVU Act, with special arrangements for the care of young. Appeal wrote in his judgment (målnr 3706-12): “The investigation into the case reveals, among other things. A data from the National Bureau of Investigation that Abdullah is in a criminal environment and could be recruited for military service outside the country. At the time of the immediate care were indications that Abdullah was about to leave the country to participate in armed conflict. ” The Administrative Court’s judgment (målnr 10667-12) referenced social services investigation. “The social welfare committee investigation shows that Abdullah since the fall of 2010 lived in Sweden for long periods without a guardian. He has since lived and spent time with old acquaintances of the family. These men have a criminal background. The man Abdullah lived principally with serving currently a imprisonment. It also appears that Abdullah in September 2011 during a trip to the Middle East stayed in inappropriate groups and arrested for such illegal immigration. ” Abdullah Moummou is the son of Mohamed Moummou, Swedish citizen, born in 1965 in Fez in Morocco, educated at one of al-Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan and at his death in 2008 in Mosul second in command of al-Qaida in Iraq. He became best known as Abu Qaswarah, but one of Mohamed Moummous many aliases that was set when he was placed on the UN sanctions list was just Abu Abdallah – father of Abdullah. Both the boy Abdullah as his mother Camilla Olofsson – now living in Alexandria in Egypt, but declared yet with little short of daily contact with his son – denied care. They describe Abdullah’s main socializing and apartment mate as “a good friend of the family” and “do not think Abdullah is in danger.” The person Abdullah Moummou are registered with lacks, however, not without interest. He sits on the board of the company behind the store on Old Brogatan as long run by Farid Lamrabet, designated as the central figure in the Stockholm jihadist circles (currently touring as related to the Swedish terror command in prison in Denmark because they tried to attack the Jyllands-Posten’s editorial ). The mother also seems she may be part of the same ideological environment (still, she lived with her husband in Afghanistan and has publicly protested his innocence). She calls on Facebook to “Um Shaheeda Camilla Olofsson” which means “martyr mother Camilla.” Among her sixteen FB friends are the Swedish widow to al-Qaeda martyr Makram Mejri and several other jihadists. The mother also appears in journalist Magnus Sand Lins excellent book Jihad – the Swedes in the Islamist terrorist networks: “Evidence suggests that Egypt after Hosni Mubarak’s event attracts people in the Swedish violent Islamist environment, both men and women. One example is the 46-year-old Camilla, widow of the slain al-Qaeda leader Mohammed Moummou. On his Facebook page says she city Alexandria north of Cairo as their new place of residence. ” […] “A Swedish relative, sends word that Camilla does not want to answer any questions from journalists.” Overall, one can gain a fairly good picture of the ideological environment that young Abdullah live in, and of what kind of armed struggle that may have been current at the time of disposal. The word jihad occurs not in the correct protocols. The Administrative Court stated: “What has been found to be common ground on Abdullah’s doings the past two years may be considered a result of care deficiencies as well as a socially destructive behavior. There is therefore a real risk, if no change will state that Abdullah harbors outside of society, and to learn criminal behavior . There is therefore a need for care. ” Appeal pointed out, as mentioned above, that Abdullah seems to have been on his way to an armed conflict. “The investigation into the case reveals, among other things. A data from the National Bureau of Investigation that Abdullah is in a criminal environment and could be recruited for military service outside the country. At the time of the immediate care were indications that Abdullah was about to leave the country to participate in armed conflict. Given this background, Appeal that it is probable that Abdullah needs to be given treatment equal to 1 and 3, § § LVU and that currently there is such that grounds exist for immediate disposal under § 6 LVU. What Camilla Olofsson states can not affect that conclusion. ” 07:56 Update:According to the blog should have been in Yemen as Abdullah Moummou that the Administrative Court writes, “in September 2011 during a trip to the Middle East stayed in inappropriate groups and arrested for such illegal immigration.” The Göteborgs-Posten Gösta Hultén, from the so-called MR-organization Charter 2008, today an article on the same case. He writes nothing about travel to Yemen or any other plans to go to jihad. Hultén criticize the easy bantering terms taking care of “a young Muslim who thinks wrong, a so-called Islamists” who just “had the misfortune to by his father to have known, and even at times lived with one of [the 200 Islamists Security Service surveyed in the report violent Islamist extremism] “. Hultén description stands in some contrast to the Administrative Court, who writes: “The administrative court can not ignore the fact that Abdullah has reached such an age that he was also a participant must be responsible for the decisions they took and their own situation. Although Abdullah has family in Sweden on the mother’s side and as he himself stated even friends in their own age has Abdullah’s main interaction, at least the past year, consisted of persons who have a criminal background. It is also undisputed that he was present when some of these people committed crimes. ” Hultén have also talked with the subject of the treatment, as the familiar mannerisms says: “If I were not Muslim, had this never happened, says my lawyer. Another guy here who have been convicted for the threat of weapons and violence are to be moved to an open prison. I’m sitting here not for anything I have done or even thought of doing, but for something that SAPO think I’m going. ” Most Muslims hang out other than in criminal jihadistkretsar.Hultén data on actual treatment, however, is new and not uninteresting. “On May 18, was arrested 16-year-old on a train in Sweden after an interim decision by the deputy chairman of a social welfare committee in Stockholm. Since then he is locked up in a juvenile home. It is according to Social Services the first time that the Security Police initiated a compulsory care under LVU.” Gudmundson of at 00:46
Absurdistan as it best.

Choi
Choi
11 years ago

@Gleaner1:
When I said Sujith was clever ,I knew what I was saying.
The cleverness was in his PRAISE of Brevik’s actions, ON THIS SITE.
Brevik’s very name has NO PLACE in this discussion of the SION Rally in Sweden.N.O.N.E. Esp[ecially HERE,since Pamela,and Robert ,have been SMEARED and LIBELED with FALSE ACCUSATIONS re: Brevik.
And the attempt,by Sujith to “justify” it ,HERE,is EXACTLY what I’m speaking to.
BTW,I too have lived through the “Cold War” and am a “Vietnam-Era ” U.S. Army veteran who remembers and lived through a time when, THANKS to the Lefties,we were SPIT UPON.

whatdemocracy
whatdemocracy
11 years ago

pamela! it was wonderful to see you in the flesh! i got to sit beside you on the van floor!!

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