On Bosnia: Atlas Backs Julia Gorin

A U.S. diplomat has warned that the Al-Qaeda terror network is using
Bosnia-Herzegovina as a transit point.
Raffi Gregorian told the "Dnevni Avaz" daily that Al-Qaeda "sympathizers" in
the country are prepared to help hide agents as well as provide the group with
funding and false documents.

Hundreds of fighters from Islamic countries entered Bosnia-Herzegovina to
fight with the Muslim Bosnian army against Serbs and Croats
during the 1992-95
war. More here

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While Bosnian Muslims  shout "Sieg Heil" and  do the Nazi salute at an Israeli soccer game,
Julia Gorin responds to a piece by  Ray Robison, one of those two conservatives on American Thinker who has called  her a racist and con artist for her  Balkan writings. This past Thursday FrontPage ran an “exchange” between Robison and Gorin, titled “Kosovo—The Epicenter of Islamic Fascism?” Like Jack Nicholson said in "A Few Good Men," "you can’t handle the truth."

More on the Bosnian Lie here.

Here’s excepts from the exchange;


Kosovo – The Epicenter of Islamofascism?

It is very true that good people, well meaning people can come down flatly wrong on a divisive issue. Such is the case with the blog storm Julia Gorin is leading against the Kosovo Albanians. Never one to be short-winded Julia Gorin has laid out a stream-of-consciousness argument for FrontPage warning of a looming Islamic extremist epicenter from not Egypt, not Saudi Arabia, not Pakistan but Kosovo. The real harm here is that some other mostly reasonable people have begun to be swayed.

Note the "short winded" barb. The small minded dysphemism for well researched.

And why Kosovo instead of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc as epicenter of Islamic extremism? How about in addition to?


First I will make the obligatory upfront concessions. There are Islamic extremists in Kosovo. There have been for years as evidenced by the Clinton Administration’s germination of a controversial policy called “rendition”.
It was in Bosnia and Kosovo that the rendition of Islamic terrorists to nations like Egypt – which would obviously employ torture and in some cases murderous interrogation methods – began.

[…]

In addition, Kosovars have consistently expressed a closer identity to the West than towards fellow Muslims in Asia. I have to believe them considering my own experiences in Kosovo with the 101st Airborne. More anecdotal reasoning here.

There are two issues at hand which Gorin continues to commingle as the self-appointed Paul Revere of Albanian Muslim extremism. The challenge for us is to determine whether Kosovar Muslims are a danger to us or are acting as an aggressor against a helpless people. We should never ally ourselves with an aggressor “nation” against an innocent population or one that is a threat to ourselves. So we can rely on dubious and biased reports on websites or perhaps we can just think for ourselves.

Vs. Gorin’s fact based argument;

Response to Robison
By Julia Gorin

[…] “[When] anyone brings up the fact of Islamic war crimes, these leaders use the excuse that it was just foreign fighters and not them, when in fact they were the ones who brought those foreign fighters to the land.”

The U.S. has been playing a similar Balkans game, starting with the Clinton administration, as Chris Deliso writes in his new book The Coming Balkan Caliphate: “[T]he United States both cracked down on extremists and allied itself with Islamic leaders in the Tirana government funding these radicals.”

In Kosovo, the KLA which represented the aspirations of most Kosovo Albanians, as the New York Times reported in 1999, and which now comprises Kosovo’s uncompromising nationalist leadership is whom we continue to bank on in Kosovo. In the desperation Robison shares with our policymakers to make an exception of the Balkans so we can find that dreamy moderate-Muslim ally, he misses the point: the Balkans policies we pursued, which never took a new direction after 9/11, have created a safe haven for militants and promoted Islamization of the region. As Petrilla put it, the Balkans are a picture of “the ever expanding Middle East into Europe.” Deliso sums it up in his book:


The outright favoritism and support [the U.S.] had provided to the Bosnian Muslims in a complex civil war had the disastrous effect of transubstantiating the holy war from Southeast Asia to the heart of Europe. Indeed… the Bosnian jihad had essentially created a global empire for terror.
To fulfill its extreme pro-Muslim Balkan policy, the United States was actually cooperating…with state sponsors of terrorism such as Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, and Pakistan. With European allies like Germany and Austria, the United States aided and abetted their secret services, their banks, and their charities and thus created the terror network in both Balkan and Western European countries that would later provide the logistical support and some of the manpower for the 9/11 attacks…


We couldn’t admit our Bosnia mistake, and so we duplicated it in Kosovo. Now we can’t admit the Kosovo mistake, and so we are seeing it through to the end, which will be our end.

But Robison, still married to his obsolescing picture of the secular
Albanian people, writes today that “Kosovars have consistently
expressed a closer identity to the West than towards fellow Muslims in
Asia.” He is laboring under the delusion that Western secularism holds
a bigger pull for Muslims than Islam does. If that’s the case, why did
the Bosnian war—in which the West unequivocally sided with Islamist
ambitions and in which 5,000 Albanian volunteers fought—reinvigorate
Islam in Bosnia and breed “a new generation of homegrown jihadis,” as
Deliso writes? The Kosovo that Robison remembers isn’t today’s Kosovo
or the Kosovo of the future that we’ve sponsored. It was “blatantly
clear” to Petrilla that the allegiance of the dozens of Kosovars he
spoke to “was to the east, towards Mecca, and certainly not to the
[W]est. Where will their allegiances be once they get their way and
have an independent state? Considering the continual bombardment of
Saudi money and Wahhabist indoctrination in most every mosque and every
school in Kosovo?”

The Coming Balkan Caliphate goes to this point:

The prevailing narrative of the media and Western governments, which
predicts that once the last territorial disputes are settled, the
Balkan states will all fall into line, becoming well-behaved, compact,
and pro-Western countries, is short-sighted…it is contradicted by
visible trends on the ground…Because of [Islamists’] activities, the
Balkans will increasingly come to be identified as a spawning ground
for terrorists, dotted with no-go areas and concealed urban command
centers.

Albanian hands aren’t as clean of Islamism and terrorism as Robison
would like readers to think. In a 2005 documentary, Albanian-American
citizen and KLA gunrunner Florin Krasniqi (originally smuggled into
this country across the Mexican border) unapologetically admitted to
working with al Qaeda in fighting for Kosovo independence. Conversely,
in 1998 at the 16th Islamic Conference in Pakistan, Kosovo Albanian
separatism was called “jihad”, and the same year a rally in London for
the Kosovo jihad was backed by over 50 indigenous Islamic groups,
according to Deliso. One KLA volunteer interviewed in Albania stated
that Kosovo would be his “eighth jihad”.

In Vitina, Kosovo, the Medina Mosque has been dubbed by foreign
visitors as “the bin Laden Mosque” because of the bin Laden photos that
adorned its walls until recently, presumably because the Americans
complained. But not to worry: the mosque was financed by Turkey, also
just a “moderate” Muslim state.

In the midst of Albania’s working with American intelligence in the
1990s to nab the bad guys, a “deeply embarrassing truth” was exposed,
writes Deliso. “Albania had acquired a reputation among jihadis.
According to [terrorist-slash-informer] Abu Omar, they considered
Albania a “safe hotel”—“a country where fundamentalist Muslims believe
they could live without fear of political repression.” (This answers
Robison’s befuddlement over the Albanians helping the CIA round up al
Qaeda fighters; is Robison so naïve as to be unfamiliar with the double
game that all Muslim governments play with the West?) Deliso has more:

[I]n the immediate aftermath of the [9/11] attacks, tight-lipped
U.S. government sources disclosed an explosive fact: that there was a
definite connection between the 9/11 plotters and Albania-based Islamic
terrorists. Further, these officials attested that KLA members had
indeed been trained at al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan…

In 1994, President Berisha ensured a strong Islamic presence in
Albania’s nascent banking sector with the arrival of the Arab-Albanian
Islamic Bank, ahead of other Western banks. The Arab-Albanian Islamic
Bank oversaw the construction of hundreds of mosques, gave scholarships
to Islamic universities abroad, and doled out cash to poor Albanians…

Berisha, who was elected prime minister in 2005, had granted
citizenship to 41 foreign extremists in 1992, the same year Bosnia gave
bin Laden a passport. More recently, there have been some “unusually
strong nationalistic statements by Berisha cabinet members, some of
whom have said Kosovo should be annexed to the motherland,” Deliso
continues. “A more tangible concern has to do with the return of former
SHIK [Albanian intelligence] chief and Islamist supporter, Bashkim
Gazidede [who]…was cooperating with al Qaeda—as well as with the
Turkish MIT intelligence agency—while in exile.”

Robison asks, “Anybody remember Kosovars burning U.S. flags? Yelling
for the infidels to get out?…the old ‘Great Satan’ slogan…?”

Why should they, when Uncle Sam is doing their bidding? The real
question here is “What if?” What would happen if the U.S. changed its
policy and did not feverishly support Kosovo independence? Nobody
discusses the issue with that premise in mind, but this is what has the
politicians and UN workers terrified. (Recall the rare candor of the
Hungarian EU parliamentarian who in February explained what else drives
the West’s Kosovo policy: “We’re afraid of them.”) But giving the
Albanians what they demand by violence or threat of violence only
encourages further violence. Did concessions to Palestinians engender
moderation, or even more radical—and overtly Islamic—violence?

There’s a hellava lot more. Go, get educated.

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