Ground Zero Mosque: Muslim Brotherhood Axis Descends on New York

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Imam Rauf is a self defined "bridge builder." "The chasm between Islam and Jahiliyyah is great, and a bridge is not to be built across it so that the people on the two sides may mix with each other, but only so that the people of Jahiliyyah may come over to Islam. Sayyid Qutb, Milestones, 263.

 

"Once it became a rallying cry for extremists, we had no choice but to stand with Feisal Rauf," said Dr. Shaik Ubaid, referring to the New York City imam who has been leading the drive for the center.

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The leading Muslim Brotherhood proxies have descended on Ground Zero to conduct a war summit in the informational battle space on the Ground Zero mosque. Their strategy in the war of ideas is Goebbels-style propaganda.

Once it became a rallying cry for fundamentalists, the Muslim Brotherhood said it had to stand with them or against them? Islamic supremacists should not be allowed a victory for their violent intimidation. That is very basic to any free man, that is.

Every one of these groups listed below is a front for the Muslim Brotherhood, as entered into evidence in the largest Hamas funding trial in US history, the Holy Land Foundation trial. According to an internal, captured document entered into evidence in the Holy Land trial, the stated goal of the Muslim Brotherhood is "eliminating and destroying western civilization from within."

SIOA/FDI is calling for a full-scale investigation by the Department of Justice, or a special Congressional investigation of these groups.

The Brotherhood plays an active role today in promoting Islamic terrorism against US interests (more here).

This weekend's Muslim Brotherhood pack of subversive groups is gathering to plot how they can ram the Ground Zero mega-mosque down our infidel throats while playing the victim and beating us about the head with racism! bigotry! islamoshmobia! Sheik Ubaid of the Islamic Leadership Council of Metropolitan New York, which is one of the groups organizing the gathering, said he has a growing sense that the project is being embraced by American Muslims and Muslim groups after some initial trepidation.

The bottom line is that any other group, any other organization would have been sensitive to the cry of millions of Americans, and would have quietly withdrawn this monument to jihad. Any other decent and compassionate group would have done the right thing. But instead, we get threats of violence and accusations, libel and slander, every cheap trick in the book, to build what will inevitably be the icon for Islamic jihad across the world — Mecca on the Hudson. Whether we see it that way or not is irrelevant ……the ummah will see it that way. Cordoba indeed.

CBS News reports that Shaik Ubaid said that he had a growing sense that the project was being embraced as a cause. Yes, the cause of America. CBS does not report that Dr. Shaik Ubaid is an activist associated with Jamaat-e-Islami, an international (mainly South Asian) jihadist organization. Dr Ubaid was the founder of IMC-USA (Indian Muslim Council-USA). A friend of mine, Moorthy Muthuswamy, shared some criticism of Jamaat-e-Islami in a Yahoo group, supposedly secular, and he was surprised to see an IMC-USA leader defend the Islamic supremacist philosophy and even the imposition of Islamic rule. The IMC-USA (Indian Muslim Council-USA) is obviously a Jamaat-e-Islami front.
 
Dr. Ubaid was also an active volunteer of ICNA, another Muslim Brotherhood front.

This is a short take on one Shaik Ubaid, the organizer behind the “Muslim Summit” to be held today in New York to discuss the proposed “Ground Zero” mosque and more, from Moorthy Muthuswamy:

Dr. Ubaid is an American Muslim physician of Indian origin. As author of a recent book on radical Islam that gives an unprecedented view of jihad in India, I have had a chance to follow Dr. Ubaid’s thought process for almost ten years. Specifically, I have noted his reaction to the acts of jihad in India and the resulting response by beleaguered governments and the majority Hindu community there.

In violent acts involving Indian Muslim minorities, Dr. Ubaid has consistently portrayed the Muslims as victims, and the Indian state and the majority community as aggressors (just like he mischaracterized those who oppose the Ground Zero mosque as “Extremists”) – when in reality the Muslim community has acted as the primary incubator of violent jihadism.

This makes Dr. Ubaid an apologist or appeaser of jihadists – and possibly, more.

Dr. Ubaid is the founding president of IMANNET which is linked with Consultative Committee of Indian Muslims (CCIM). The CCIM is said to have funded an Indian jihadist organization, Student Islamic Movement of India (SIMI). The SIMI, according to the Indian government, has been behind several serial bombings.

The SIMI is banned in India.  It has been labeled a terrorist organization by both India and the US.  

Given his track record, I am afraid that the likes of Dr. Ubaid are going to push the American Muslim community further into radicalism.

American Muslims deserve better.

The new York meeting of the Muslim Brotherhood groups is hosted by the Islamic Leadership Council of more than 55 major Mosques and Islamic Organizations in New York City. The summit is entitled, get this, National Islamic Leaders Summit, and will include a News Conference against bigotry and Islamophobia in the United States. The most radical and intolerant ideology is going to admonish us and school us in tolerance. They will release a Statement agreed upon by these Islamic leaders. They will also address the "continued building of mosques in America." Americans are standing against Muslim Brotherhood centers and fortresses. Americans are protesting extremist mosques that teach hate, incitement to jihad and hatred of non-Muslims. I am sure this group of stealth jihadists will not address that — the key issue.

Here is the MB summit and the list of attendees. Let's have a look, shall we?

Combating Ethnic and Religious Intolerance and Defending the Continued Building of Mosques in America

Confirmed National Islamic Leaders

Imam Muhammad Majid; President Islamic Society of North America (ISNA). ISNA admits ties to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood and was an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas funding case.

Dr. Zahid Bukhari; President, Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA). In "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America," a 1991 internal Muslim Brotherhood document, Brotherhood operative Mohamed Akram explains that the Brotherhood's work in America is "a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions." The memorandum concludes with “a list of our organizations and the organizations of our friends.” Among these organizations are the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) and the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), among others.

Dr. Ahmed Elbendary; President, Muslim American Society (MAS). "In recent years, the U.S. Brotherhood operated under the name Muslim American Society, according to documents and interviews. One of the nation's major Islamic groups, it was incorporated in Illinois in 1993 after a contentious debate among Brotherhood members." — Chicago Tribune, 2004. The Brotherhood, as I noted above, is dedicated to "eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within."

Mr. Nihad Awad, Executive Director, CAIR. Awad has said, "I am in support of the Hamas movement." CAIR operatives have repeatedly refused to denounce Hamas and Hizballah as terrorist groups. CAIR is an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror funding case. Several of its former officials have been convicted of various crimes related to jihad terror. Two of its other officials have made Islamic supremacist statements. CAIR also was involved in the Flying Imams' intimidation suit against the passengers who reported their suspicious behavior.

Imam Siraj Wahhaj; Ameer, Muslim Alliance in North America (MANA). "If only Muslims were clever politically, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate." — Siraj Wahhaj, 2002

The Muslim American Society (MAS) is an organization with strong ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. The organization, founded in 1993, is headquartered in Alexandria, Virginia and has local chapters in 23 states. MAS is headed by Esam Omeish and Souheil Ghannouchi, who serve as president and executive director respectively. Shaker El Sayed served as the Society's secretary general until June 1, 2005, when he left the organization to become an imam at the Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Northern Virginia. MAS' political and public relations wing, the Freedom Foundation, is headed by Mahdi Bray. Click here for the full profile.

Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi; Chairman, Islamic Fiqh Council of North America

Imam Al-Tayyab Abuel Yamaan, Chairman, North American Imams Federation

Imam Mahdi Bray; Executive Director, MAS Justice & Peace Foundation. Openly supported Hamas and Hezbollah, as captured on this video.

Imam Asim A. Rashid; Amir of Majlis Philadelphia

Mr. Haris Tarin; Director, Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC)

Mr. M. Salim Akhtar; Executive Director, American Muslim Taskforce (AMT)

Ms. Aiysha Al-Adawiya; Founder & Exec. Director, Muslim Women in Islam, Inc.

Mr. Muhammad Nasir; Executive Director, Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago

The management of Corodoba Housewill be present at both events

 WHO: Majlis Ash-Shura of Metropolitan New York

      Islamic Leadership Council (Partial List)

The Majlis Ash-Shura of NY, the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA-NY), The Muslim Alliance in North America (MANA), the Muslim American Society (MAS-NY), The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR-NY), North American Imams Federation (NAIF), Center for American Muslim Research & Information (CAMRI), The Iqaamatudeen Movement, Muslim Ummah of North America (MUNA), The Association of African Imams, Women in Islam, the Muslim Foundation of America, Masjid At-Taqwa, The Mosque of Islamic Brotherhood, The Muslim Center of NY, The Tawhid Center for Islamic Development, Masjid Omar bin Abdul-Aziz, the Hillside Islamic Center, Masjid Alhamdulillah, Masjid Arqam, Masjid Sabur, Masjid Khalil Rauf Abdullah, Masjid Iqamat Ad-Deen, Masjid Al-Hamdulillah, Masjid Al-Abidin, Baitul Ma’mur Masjid, Young Muslims, Islamic Mission, Muslim Consultative Network, Brooklyn Eid Council, Masjid Allahu Akbar, Masjid Omar bin Abdul Aziz, Masjid Al-Farooq, Masjid Al-Hira and Masjid Darul Qur’an, The Muslim Consultative Network (MCN), Masjid Imam Ali, Masjid At-Taqwa, the House of Peace, the United Muslim Alliance (UMA), Arab Muslim American Federation.

 

(Masjid=Mosque)

more here)

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf: "We tend to forget, in the West, that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al Qaida has on its hands of innocent non Muslims. You may remember that the US-led sanctions against Iraq led to the death of over half a million Iraqi children. This has been documented by the United Nations. And when Madeleine Albright, who has become a friend of mine over the last couple of years, when she was Secretary of State and was asked whether this was worth it, said it was worth it.

No mention of the 270 million victims of over a millennium of jihadi wars, land appropriations, cultural annihilation and enslavement. No mention of the recent slaughter by Muslims of Christians, Hindus, Jews, non-believers in Indonesia, Thailand, Ethiopia, Somalia, Philippines, Lebanon, Israel, Russia, China……………. no candor, no criticism of Islam.

Imam Feisal: "The West needs to begin to see themselves through the eyes of the Arab and Muslim world, and when you do you will see the predicament that exists within the Muslim community."

On the question of reforming Islam and expunging the texts of the threat doctrine and mandated violence and conquest:

Imam Feisal: On the issue of the reformation, in terms of what is again intended by it, Islam does not need a reformation. 

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf: "So men will say: women, you know, they're emotional, ….. whatever, whatever, and women will say: men, they're brutes, insensitive, etcetera, and you have the beginning of a gender conflict. If gender is not what distinguishes us we'll look at skin colouring and say: n#####s or whities, or whatever"

Reverend Al Sharpton was unavailable for comment. Too busy endorsing the Islamic supremacist mosque. Rest assured, the tolerant Imam Rauf will not suffer as Dr. Laura did (and she was making a "word" point, Rauf is using it).

Imam Feisal: And when we observe terrorism, whether it was done by the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka or by al Qaida or whoever is behind the bombings in London or those in Madrid

Note, when he says this about the London and Madrid bombings, it was five days after the London attacks and over a year after Madrid. It was common knowledge who the perps were at that time.

IMAM FEISAL ABDUL RAUF: That's a very common question. In fact, just about two months ago I was interviewed by Barbara Walters, who is doing a special on heaven and she's interviewed suicide bombers who are expecting the embraces of 72 virgins in paradise, and she asked me do women get the same privilege as well, and I answered her telling her: well, the Koran says you shall have whatever your heart desires

And the Imam is conspiracy theorist — 911 was an inside job:

How many of you have seen the documentary: Fahrenheit 911? The vast majority – at least half here. Do you remember the scene of the Iraqi woman whose house was bombed and she was just screaming, "What have they done." Now, I don't know, you don't know Arabic but in Arabic it was extremely powerful. Her house was gone. Her husband, I think, was killed. What wrong did he do? I found myself weeping when I watched that scene and I imagined myself if I were a 15-year old nephew of this deceased man, what would I have felt?
Collateral damage is a nice thing to put on a paper but when the collateral damage is your own uncle or cousin, what passions do these arouse? How do you negotiate? How do you tell people whose homes have been destroyed, whose lives have been destroyed, that this does not justify your actions of terrorism. It's hard. Yes, it is true that it does not justify the acts of bombing innocent civilians, that does not solve the problem, but after 50 years of, in many cases, oppression, of US support of authoritarian regimes that have violated human rights in the most heinous of ways, how else do people get attention?

And while Imam Faisal speaks of tolerance and so forth, he commiserates with the worst extremists and inciters to genocide:

IMAM FEISAL ABDUL RAUF: The broader community is in fact criticising and condemning actions of terrorism that are being done in the name of Islam. I just came from a conference in Jordan, Amman where there were over 170 leading Muslim scholars from almost every part of the Muslim world, including some of the most important names like Sheikh Tantawi of Egypt, Sheikh Ali Gomaa, who is the Chief Mufti of Egypt, the Chief Mufti of Jordan, the Sheikh Al-Qaradawi, who is a very very well known Islamic jurist, highly regarded all over the Muslim world.

MAS/ICNA Qatar cleric Yusuf Qaradawi in the UK : 'Give terrorists Apache helicopters so they won't have to blow themselves up'

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Connie
Connie
13 years ago

Rauf is not a nice imam, is he?
You should come on down to Bekasi, Indonesia, where 900 police officers had to be on stand-by for a small Christian group to have their Sunday service yesterday, inside their own building, which has been sealed by the local mayoralty.
The agitation against the Christians was led by a local Muslim cleric who was reported to be incensed that they dared to build it on a field next to his home!
On the other hand, Bekasi’s City Administration has a long history of maltreating Christians, so it isn’t just an agitator. It’s the syatem here.
There’s a long explanatory post on this on Ross’s Right Angle, our local expat blog, which I see has put Atlas Shrugs on its blog roll.
Please read it. Living under Islam is easy for expats who can always go home, but for local minorities…think again!

pythagoras
pythagoras
13 years ago

It is very very importnat that Americans NEVER forgive Islam for any of its countless crimes against humanity (including of course 9-11). Muslims must give up Islam or face deportation from the western democracies. We should start with the members of the fanatical Muslim Brotherhood and work our way down the Islamic totem pole. The fish stinketh from the head down.
There is no –and never was– any middle ground with Islam. When Muslims build a bridge that involves non-Muslims it is to throw the infidels off that bridge into shark-infested waters.
It’s time to turn the tables on these people. Islam’s nature is totally fixed, besides being homicidal and superstitious, and traps everyone it comes in to contact with. We must keep it away at all costs.

Safti
Safti
13 years ago

Ditto. Thank you pythagoras!

Safti
Safti
13 years ago

I could puke listening to Rauf. I can read between the lines.
He really thinks he’s the head coach, and that he is calling the shots.
We’ll see what happens in the end. He will go down along with Miss Daisy Mae and Co.

WAKE UP
WAKE UP
13 years ago

“Given his track record, I am afraid that the likes of Dr. Ubaid are going to push the American Muslim community further into radicalism. American Muslims deserve better.”
Only if they stand up to be counted, and it’s way past time they did. Muslims worldwide, though pathologically primed to riot over the printed page, have not yet mounted a single protest on any discernible scale against Islamic terrorist killing of innocent human beings, including the events of 9/11.

Frank
Frank
13 years ago

IMAM FEISAL ABDUL RAUF: “The broader community is in fact criticising and condemning actions of terrorism that are being done in the name of Islam. I just came from a conference in Jordan, Amman where there were over 170 leading Muslim scholars from almost every part of the Muslim world, including some of the most important names like Sheikh Tantawi of Egypt, Sheikh Ali Gomaa, who is the Chief Mufti of Egypt, the Chief Mufti of Jordan, the Sheikh Al-Qaradawi, who is a very very well known Islamic jurist, highly regarded all over the Muslim world.”
What Imom Rauf does not realize is that this nonsense is not good enough anymore. It is time to condemn the Jew-hating suras in the Qu’ran, the calls to kill the “polytheists”-to condemn all al-taqiyya, all the deceptions permitted by the Imom’s “religion of peace” that’s being peddled to the Dhimmis (Jews and Christians) and the Polytheists.
(I think Imom rauf should abandon his monotheist Islam with its monotheist rage and become a Polytheist and build a Polytheist Temple of Tolerance at GZ. That would get the US flags waving in support of you, Imom Rauf. Hare Krishna, Imom Rauf. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN71NGrdTbs)
It is time to tell tell the truth re Islam, Imom Rauf: that though the Qu’ran is set-up longest verse to shortest verse, that it is the chronological order that matters, and that earlier suras, the “peaceful” suras peddled to the Unbelievers, to the bourgeois “tolerant Liberals” have been canceled by the later violent chronological suras.
(Ibn Warraq, page 115,Why I am Not a Muslim: “Now we see how useful and convenient the doctrine of abrogation is in bailing scholars out of difficulties. Of course, it does pose a problem for apologists of Islam, since all the passages preaching tolerance are found in the Meccan, i.e., early suras, and all the passages recommending killing, decapitating, and maiming are Median, i.e., later: “tolerance” has been abrogated by “intolerance.” For example, the famous verse at Sura 9.5, “Slay the idolaters whereever you find them,” is said to have canceled 124 verses that dictate tolerance and patience.”)
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P.S. Mr Wright of the New Yorker: eventually you too will see the truth.

Frank
Frank
13 years ago

Ibn warraq, in his book Why I am not a Muslim, makes an excellent point re monotheism vs. polytheism. Why do we assume monotheism is superior to Polytheism? God has many faces. When was the last time there was a Polytheist religions’ Jihad?
Make the move up, Imom Rauf, advance from supremacist Islam to Buddhism, or the Hindu religions of India. Stop peddling this nonsense that “Islam is a religion of peace.” Anything is preferable to the nonsense and lies that you peddle to the Dhimmis and the Polytheist “idolaters.”

lilredbird
lilredbird
13 years ago

They have had 9 years to grow a pair. The “explanations” for their silence range from fear of jihadists to, and more often, fear of being “ostracized” by their precious ummah “communities”. If they slide further into radicalism, they will eventually pay the price. If they continue to hide out behind the couch waiting to see who wins, they will eventually pay the price anyway. The real reformers have their necks stuck out a mile. Until I see a “muslim community” in this country marching down the middle of the main street of town in the thousands supporting the reformers, I will consider them collaborators with or at least enablers of the enemy.

xavier 823
xavier 823
13 years ago

Well it seems that this will be all out fight. Expect the main stream media to be against us and expect the pro Muslim groups to be well financed with money coming from the Saudis and Iran. We can also add
Inman Obama , the traitor money mad Bloomberg and the anti American socialist/communist to stand against us.

twitter.com/HereticsCrusade
twitter.com/HereticsCrusade
13 years ago

I think a large part of this conference is to drown out the rising voice of actual moderate Muslims who are tired of having their faith used as a ping pong ball when they just want to live.
I did an analysis of this piece and included some background on Ubaid; he is NOT a friend of the US or Israel!

lilredbird
lilredbird
13 years ago

Well, this is the second time I’ve posted a comment only to have it disappear, so don’t know what the story is.
Anybody want to make a bet which way they’ll go: 1) more aggressive and threatening victimization-mongering, or 2) more saccharine and “tolerance”-mongering victimization? My first guess would be (2), but given the number and caliber of big guns they’ve dragged up to the front, it wouldn’t surprise me to hear outright calls for curtailment of free speech rights or whatever outrages they think they can get away with.
Learn all you can, in as much detail as possible. I changed someone’s mind today, because he realized he didn’t know any of the stuff I was telling him (such as what Sharia, abrogation, and taqiyya are) and that he needs to pay more attention to what is actually going on rather than just brush it off with cliches about “tolerance”.

B
B
13 years ago

What do say that actually changed their mind? I had a discussion with my little brother via email about this subject and he didn’t change his mind. I can’t convince him that Muslims do in fact lie using Taqiyya and what sharia law is about. He equates Sharia laws with the Jewish courts and sees nothing wrong. The “tolerance” wool is completely pulled over his eyes. What would you say to someone to lift the wool over their eyes?

duh_swami
duh_swami
13 years ago

Frank…” For example, the famous verse at Sura 9.5, “Slay the idolaters whereever you find them,” is said to have canceled 124 verses that dictate tolerance and patience.”)
That’s right…The two reasons that taqiyya/lying is successful on kufr who have not done their homework, is due to abrogation, and the difference between the Meccan and Madinah sura’s…Once you understand those, it’s way harder to get taqiyya by you…

AuntieMadder
AuntieMadder
13 years ago

OFF TOPIC: Gateway Pundit posted today a report from Drudge about the Oilbama’s attending church this morning.
The first family left the White House on foot this morning for the 9am choral holy eucharist service and sermon at St John’s Church Lafayette Square.
The Obamas walked out of the residence at 8.49am and crossed the park to the nearby Episcopal church.

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/09/well-g-d-america-halleluia-obama-goes-to-church/
In the comments to the post, a reader shared this link, which reveals the true reason for the visit to the church this morning. http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=d8zaiodab&v=001mgvimUtTidNQ_OjUbYFRRaB_bbj_SzfQurzW01WrJO2oZrpu_iPdRJG7HOqCUtgJWLHzHXtry6bfHeq8-WiSsXHVoE5Z63AHcYMWndTy6qybnxAUor7ID-RyOmrzmwlmI3CR3On1Ljw%3D
ST. JOHN’S ADULT FORUM
Prospects for the Two-State Solution in the Middle East
10:00 a.m. in the Parish House Dining Room
September 19, Part I
Dr. Ziad J. Asali, a retired physician with a long history of activism in Palestinian and Arab-American organizations, is the President and Founder of the American Task Force on Palestine (ATFP). ATFP opposes acts of violence against civilians and advocates a negotiated agreement in the Middle East that provides for two states — Israel and Palestine — living side by side in peace and security.

Tune in next week to find out if Oilbama attends church two consecutive Sundays or if going to listen to an American yammering just isn’t worth it to him.
September 26, Part II
Aaron David Miller is a Public Policy Fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, where he wrote his fourth book: The Much Too Promised Land: America’s Elusive Search for Arab-Israeli Peace. For two decades, he served at the Department of State as an advisor to six secretaries of state, where he helped formulate U.S. policy on the Middle East and the Arab-Israel peace process.
PS: If you look in the comments to the Gateway Pundit post, you’ll see I was busy for hours before charlotte shared the link to the St John’s Peace for Fakestinians agenda. Although I was on the wrong track, I discovered many links between Progressive organizations and Christian churches, as well as Progressive Christian churches. Just so you know, St John’s Church Lafayette Square has many ties to Progressive organizations.

al-Kidya
al-Kidya
13 years ago

While listening to this Imam talk, I had this song playing through my head…“The devil went down to Georgia, he was looking for a soul to steal.
He was in a bind ‘cos he was way behind: he was willin’ to make a deal.

The man is cunning as a fox but not as smart as Pamela.
This has to get out everywhere.
He is playing the media, the politicians, the rabbis, the bishops, the pastors, the families of victims, and the world like a big fiddle and he intends to steal Israel and America and turn them into sharia land.

sean
sean
13 years ago

It’s time to develop some HARBITUDE!

jdow
jdow
13 years ago

Let me get this straight. To get to Heaven you must want to die in the name of Allah, you must want Allah to screw you any way he wants. So basically you must wish to be Allah’s victim. If you have any other desires in your heart you fail.
With that in mind we have Rauf’s gem, “…and I answered her telling her: well, the Koran says you shall have whatever your heart desires.” Reeeeeeeaalyyyy! Think about what they must wish for more than life itself. Then think about that phrase. They get to die, eternally, in Allah’s name. They get Allah screwing them over eternally. What delicious logical poetic justice.
{^_^}

Jacqueline
Jacqueline
13 years ago

Hahaha, That Imam is not that smart,is for Hamas too.Is saying about Israel why Jewish state why not Islamic state ? is his strategy politics or religion ? I think it’s both.
Now we now that his strategy is a football game, SO PLEASE AMERICA DON’T LET HIM HAVE EVEN ONE GOAL !
Good luck America ! God protect America !

lilredbird
lilredbird
13 years ago

First of all, this guy was pretty much clueless. He is deeply involved in his profession and just soaks up what he gets from the MSM so all he could come up with was the ususal “tolerance” platitudes. But I was able to hit him with enough facts that he realized the issue wasn’t just about “tolerance” of a “religion”, but that Sharia really did threaten constitutional law.
When you communicate with someone about taqiyya, or Sharia, or whatever, give them links and references to check on their own if they will do it. Explain about abrogation and include examples, you can find them on Robert’s JW site, so the person you are explaining to can’t just brush them off as “intolerance”. Ask why “moderate” muslims don’t turn out in droves to protest violent jihad in their name, then show how they risk being socially ostracized (or even threatened) if they do. Swamp ’em with facts. So far that’s the only thing I’ve found works, because people will stubbornly fall back on the racism-intolerance-biogtry line because it makes them feel good and saves them from having to think.

debrobeaudean
debrobeaudean
13 years ago
Person of the Book
Person of the Book
13 years ago

Fahrenheit 911 –> from the way Rauf speaks, it sounds like he is milking Michael Moore’s “documentary” for all it’s worth.
“Will they ever trust us again?” No, Michael, they probably won’t, thanks in large part to traitors like you, who feed them lots of anti-American propaganda.

Mitch
Mitch
13 years ago

And he thinks we are supposed to fall for his silky smooth calm delivery and nice little British accent.
Not in a heartbeat.
The guy’s a real wolf in sheep’s clothing.
NOBODY should trust this guy.

Bompins
Bompins
13 years ago

I honestly don’t think that all “Muslims” in this country want to replace our Constitution with Sharia. They just want to get out of their former country where Islam runs amok and have some freedoms. You know, like most humans desire. But they have a real problem. The people who push the extreme views of Islam, from which they escaped, have followed them to America and are doing everything to control the narrative of what it means to be Muslim in America. The problem is that these “moderates” who do want to get along with everybody, whether Christian or Jew, are intimidated by the radicals. I’m sure there are many unspoken/unwritten threats going around that keeps these people from speaking out even in America.
Our Immigration policy is going to have to change real soon or we are going to be overrun by these thugs. It will become necessary that we start deporting ANYONE who refuses to recognize the Constitution as the supreme law of the land. If you speak out against the United States and threaten anyone – you are deported. Period.

annie
annie
13 years ago

I would tell your brother several things. Firstly, Jews are not pushing to have the Constitution altered. Jewish law and islamic law have nothing in common. Pretty much the only Jews who follow Jewish law are the Orthodox Jews who are a very very tiny portion of American Jewish population. There isn’t much in the constitution that hinders Jews in society, Jews in America do not need to push anything because America doesn’t have separate laws for Jews or anyone, like has been the case in Europe for generations. Also, there are no laws in the modern world that demand Jews kill anyone, or demand from others to accommodate their religious needs at the workplace or in public. Also, not only are Jews very happy to live in America because of the laws that the Constitution provides.
Islam wants to shred the Constitution and replace it with sharia, which is basically every word in the koran, which includes allowing grown men to have sex with children, if the parents consent to it. Why would they consent to that? The creepy old men pay them. Killing infidels very much okay in sharia. What all does it take for your brother to deal with reality?

Madeleine
Madeleine
13 years ago

Good job Auntie, I was hoping to see something about this story on Atlas this a.m. because it just didn’t make sense and if it doesn’t make sense then something else is behind it. Clearly, Obama was there to attend the conference, but he probably did go to church just to take everyone off his game. Thanks for posting this, when my husband and I walk today, I am going to fill him in and in two seconds, I’m going to do a some checking things out myself. Thanks for the heads up.

annie
annie
13 years ago

Rauf could have accepted the offer from Donald Trump and seek another location, end of story. But NO.

B
B
13 years ago

In my brother’s case, he is relying on his own personal experience with Muslims to justify his “tolerance” position. As we have acknowledged and even Robert I’m sure has acknowledged… not all Muslims are bad and want to harm us. There are quite a few who are just like us, work to feed the family and focus on that.
I have already done what you said and sent him links. The one video he did watch “Three things about Islam..” he got really offended by it. The video even states in the beginning that not all Muslims are bad. But it does a pretty good job in my opinion of stating the issue with regards to Radical Muslims.
Despite all this, he still believes that Muslims don’t employ Taqiyya and he doesn’t want to discuss the issue further. He wants to “agree to disagree” and calls me a religious bigot. He’s got the wool over his eyes and nothing I can do to shake that until he starts to see on his own. Maybe I’ve cracked the door so he will notice it in the news more even if he still disagrees with me.

B
B
13 years ago

Having one of his Muslim fiends go extreme and them-self up or one of his kids get hurt in a terrorist action. I’m afraid that’s what it would take for him to wake up.

refuse2lose
refuse2lose
13 years ago

I just read an article where supporters of the GZM are being linked to the Bilderbergs,CIA and CFR. There is also a link between a corporation that has donated to the mosque and Glen Beck. Can’t wait to hear Glens’ explanation for this.

can't takes no more
can't takes no more
13 years ago

’bout how many millions of people in this country qualify as ***WILLFULLY IGNORANT***.
like that comedian bill engval says, “there’s your sign”.

blather, wince, repeat
blather, wince, repeat
13 years ago

ya couldn’t link it for the rest of us?

where is everybody
where is everybody
13 years ago

which choice do you think they will make when the “more adherent” imam gets transferred to their mosque and expects more and more adherence to islam? america or islam? will they be repulsed by the demand for more strict interpretation and go another mosque? if you’re not familiar with the “muslims as a percentage of the population”, it is a good time to do so.
and do you think with a taqiyya-compliant president PUSHING AMNESTY (with the fam. reunif.act to allow MORE MILLIONS into this country) that we gonna change our immagration policy at all?

John Kelly
John Kelly
13 years ago

What part of TREASON and TREACHERY does Washington not understand.
Islam is not a religion it is a political system disguised as a religion. A Wolf in Sheep clothing.
Islam wants nothing short of a global Caliphate where all submit to Islam
The only thing that can possibly save America from the Islamic infiltration and treason is to learn from past history.
In 1492, the same year that Columbus sailed for America, Spain drove all the Muslims out of Spain.
The reason was simple wherever Muslims migrate they do so with the intention of taking over the host nation.
Obama the “Deceiver in Chief” will not dare to make a stand against Islam as he would need a backbone.
“We the People” must stand up.

John Kelly
John Kelly
13 years ago

The Illustrious and most noble Imam Rauf reflects the true nature of Islam. He has such a high regard for the truth that he only uses it on special occasions.
Wake up America you are being played for a sucker by Islam which has a 1400 year history of lying, deceiving, murder, raping, piracy against the Non-Muslim infidels.
Do your homework.
Islamic teaching has the world divided into two camps. Dar Al Islam (The Muslims) and Dar Al Harb (The House of War). They believe they are at war with the rest of the Non-Muslim world until judgment day.
This is not a religion it is the most evil system that has existed in 6000 years of recorded history.
You have a choice: STAND UP NOW or BOW DOWN.
If you really believe this is “the land of the free and the home of the BRAVE” then STAND up NOW and join the battle to save this country.

Ashraef
Ashraef
13 years ago

Australian Federation of Islamic Councils
Salem Yalekum
On behalf of a group of Brothers and sisters, we ask you read the following.
The Islamic communities in the west, Europe, America, UK are suffering as a direct result of the radical elements within Islam that have hijacked our religion and turned it into a faith of terror. Even here in Australia, people have become apprehensive of Islam.
We are going to be honest and direct in our views. These radical elements make us look like barbaric uneducated uncivilised people.
The advent of technology, mediums like the internet, media, nightly news, and press have exposed and brought to light the radical elements within Islam and questioned the validity of the Koran.
Islam is unable to control radical Muslims using the Koran and holding it in hand when they make vile videos threatening terror and murder.
Our non Muslim friends in the west have every right to be critical of Islam and question the Koran when Muslims come out and use it to justify their acts.
The Islamic community must learn to be honest, to reclaim and take ownership of Islam.
1. Why are we allowing radicals to destroy our image before the whole world?
2. Where are our honest leaders?
3. Where is the peace of Islam we profess?
9/11 showed the west the evil use of the Koran to justify terrorist attacks on civilians while Muslim people all over the world celebrating. Be Honest, this is disgraceful use of Islam.
Some people say the majority of Muslims are NOT terrorists and we are good people wanting to live in peace.
1. So why are the only modern day terrorists threatening the world radical Muslims?
2. Why are our leaders silent, while the radicals totally shame our faith?
Why do we blame the west, America, or any one else, they did not write the koran and they are not those responsible to protect it from abuse.
“Radicals that have hijacked Islam and destroyed any notion Islam is a peaceful religion”,
It disgusts me that our Islamic leaders can not or will not recognize this problem and deal with it.
On behalf of a group of muslims living in the west we have some basic questions to ask our Islamic leaders, so they may understand our concerns and why there is so much hatred and annex towards islam.
1. Why is the Islamic community allowing terrorists to hijack their religion to justify their hideous evil attacks on western countries?
2. What are the true “moderate muslims” doing to prevent this abuse of our religion by their radical brothers and sisters in Islam?
3. When the muslim community do nothing except complain about the reaction of the west to the radical elements in Islam, what do we expect them to do?
4. We are doing nothing about them?
5. Isn’t it the responsibility of every moderate Muslim to claim ownership of Islam, and openly denounce any Muslim using the Koran to justify their evil acts?
6. Do you agree that when the civilized Islamic community takes control of Islam, people might view us in a different light and we might regain our dignity?
7. Do the Islamic nations agree it should NOT be up to the western nations to clean up the mess left behind by radical Islamists?
8. Us Muslims living in the west totally accept that as a direct result of the inaction of the Islamic community, the west have no option but to protect them selves?
9. Why has Islamic communities failed to protect our religion?
10. Do the true Muslims feel ashamed and embarrassed by the 100,000’s of YouTube videos and internet sites where our religious leaders are promoting absolute vile barbaric and evil doctrines in the name of Islam?
11. What are our Islamic leaders doing to protect the name of Islam from these radicals?
12. Why do the Islamic leaders fail to acknowledge these people are the ones totally damaging the name of Islam and turning the west against islam?
13. What is the Muslim community doing about them or going to do about them and when?
14. When is Islam going to accept responsibility for the evil actions of radical Muslims acting in the name of ALLAH?
15. What does the Koran tell us Muslims about dealing with any Muslim perverting the word of the koran?
More so, we ask what Islamic scholars are going to do about the suras in the Koran that incite violence, call for the killing of Jews and Christians.
“…now that a Book confirming their own has come to them from God, they deny it…they reply: ‘We believe in what was revealed to us.’ But they deny what has since been revealed, although it is truth…Say: ‘Whoever is an enemy of Gabriel’ (who has by God’s grace revealed to you [Muhammad] the Koran as a guide…confirming previous scriptures)..will surely find that God is the enemy of the unbelievers.’…And now that an apostle has come to them from God confirming their own Scriptures, some of those to whom the Scriptures were given cast off the Book of God behind their backs…The unbelievers among the People of the Book, and the pagans, resent that any blessings should have been sent down to you from your Lord. ” (Surah 2:88-, 98-, 103-)
“Slay them wherever you find them…Idolatry is worse than carnage…Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God’s religion reigns supreme.” (Surah 2:190-)
“Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it.” (Surah 2:216)
“Men are tempted [in this life] by the lure of women…far better is the return of God. Say: ‘Shall I tell you of better things than these, with which the righteous shall be rewarded by their Lord? Theirs shall be gardens watered by running streams, where they shall dwell for ever: wives of perfect chastity…” (Surah 3:14, 15)
“The only true faith in God’s sight is Islam.” (Surah 3:19)
“Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people…They desire nothing but your ruin….You believe in the entire Book…When they meet you they say: ‘We, too, are believers.’ But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage.” (Surah 3:118, 119)
“If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches…” (Surah 3:156-)
“To those that declare: ‘God has commanded us to believe no apostle unless he brings down fire to consume an offering,’ say: ‘Other apostles before me [Muhammad] have come to you with veritable signs and worked the miracle you asked for…If they reject you [Muhammad], other apostles have been rejected before you…” (Surah 3:183-)
“If you wish to replace a wife with another, do not take from her the dowry you have given her…” (Surah 4:20)
“Forbidden to you are…married women, except those you own as slaves.” (Surah 4:20-, 24-)
“Believers, do not approach your prayers when you are drunk, but wait till you can grasp the meaning of your words…” (Surah 4:43)
“Seek out your enemies relentlessly.” (Surah 4:103-)
“Try as you may, you cannot treat all your wives impartially.” (Surah 4:126-)
“The Jews and Christians say: ‘We are the children of God and His loved ones.’ Say: ‘Why then does He punish you for your sins?” (Surah 5:18)
“Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.” (Surah 5:51)
“The God will say: ‘Jesus, son of Mary, did you ever say to mankind ‘Worship me and my mother as gods besides God?’ ‘Glory to You, ‘he will answer, ‘how could I ever say that to which I have no right?” (Surah 5:114-)
“Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons…he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home…” (Surah 8:12-)
“Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God’s religion shall reign supreme.” (Surah 8:36-)
“If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by breaking off your treaty with them.” (Surah 8:51-)
“…make war on the leaders of unbelief…Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them…” (Surah 9:12-)
“It ill becomes the idolaters [non-Muslims] to visit the mosques of God…” (Surah 9:17)
“Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]…until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued.” (Surah 9:27-)
“It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it.” (Surah 9:31-)
“If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men.” (Surah 9:37-)
“Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home.” (Surah 9:73)
“Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them.” (Surah 9:121-)
“Say: ‘Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom…” (Surah 17:111)
“‘How shall I bear a child,’ she [Mary] answered, ‘when I am a virgin…?’ ‘Such is the will of the Lord,’ he replied. ‘That is no difficult thing for Him…God forbid that He [God[ Himself should beget a son!…Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’ preach a monstrous falsehood…” (Surah 19:12-, 29-, 88)
“Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him…He has given you the name of Muslims…” (Surah 22:78-)
“Blessed are the believers…who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)…These are the heirs of Paradise…” (Surah 23:1-5-)
“You shall not force your slave-girls into prostitution in order that you make money, if they wish to preserve their chastity.” (Surah 24:33-)
“As for the faithful who do good works and believe what is revealed to Muhammad…He will forgive them their sins…” (Surah 47:1)
“Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” (Surah 48:29)
“Shall the reward of goodness be anything but good?…Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents…They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets…Blessed be the name of your Lord…” (Surah 55:52-66-)
Why does the Koran:
Prohibit people from leaving Islam?
Condoning lying to infidels?
Why does Islam feel the need to come out and attack our Jewish brothers and sisters and call for the elimination of Jews and Israel?
This is only adding fuel to the fire, and it does make us look like an evil race of people following evil hatred.
Why does the leader of Iran come out and threaten Israel and the Jews in the most disgraceful inciteful and hateful way?
Can the islamic community see, it is there Muslim brothers that are damaging the reputation and the name of islam?
Where is the voice of the civilised Muslim, the educated muslim, and the peaceful muslim?
All the messages we receive from ISLAM are hatred, evil, violence, terror; of course they are going to hate us, let us as a community be honest with ourselves?
If the West does something we dislike, we must learn to react in a civilised, diplomatic manner, and not have mad men come out declaring war in the name of Islam?
Who is in control of our faith, Our Leaders, Clerics, or the terrorists?
Why doesn’t have ONE clear voice to speak out on our behalf?
We need a voice of an educated Muslim, a voice of integrity, reason, tolerance a role model for islam.
Why have we allowed barbaric terrorists to destroy our image, our reputation, our standing, our self esteem?
The Islamic communities in Islamic nations must understand that 95% of westerners are highly educated, well read and liberal minded. They are not fools or stupid that will be swayed by threats of violence, terrorism, deception or lies.
How do we explain to them all the hatred and evil on the net, look at the number of hate videos on you tube, it is hypocrisy when we state islam is peace?
We need to clean up and stop self destructing, start been part of the solution and stop blaming others, you are all foolish for allowing this to happen in the first place.
It is NOW, yes NOW, time for islam to stop pointing the finger and to re-claim ownership of islam, control the muslims dissidents and clean out our own house, our image, our approach, our mindset.
The fact is, if our Islamic leaders and community take direct and firm action against any radicals within the ranks of islam, there would be no need for external intervention, and we would be viewed as truly a peaceful religion, not an unruly religion where everyone is free to do what they want in the name of Islam.
It is time that Islam rescues its own reputation and uproots the core of the cause destroying the name of Islam. The Islamic leaders are fully aware of the problem, just as we are in the west. Our Islamic Leaders must immediately demonstrate to the world they are in control of the destiny of Islam, and it is not in the hands of a minority radical element.
They must condemn and excommunicate the entire “Islamic brotherhood” in Egypt.
Everyone in the west is fully aware they are the chief promoters of Jihad, Shariah and terrorism all over the world, it is no secret.
Islam must stop thinking they can continue to wash their hands of the root causes and blame every one else. No one is stupid.
Islam must show we can live in peace, tolerance, equality and love.
I blame the Islamic clerics that brainwash them and put hatred and evil in the hearts and incite them to commit evil acts, AT the SAME TIME these clerics live in safety and will not expose themselves to harm, prosecution, or courts, this is wrong and madness.
Again we remind you all the problem is within islam not the west,
Finally the request for a mosque at ground zero, shows a complete lack of empathy, sympathy, consideration, remorse, or respect. Do not add insult to injury.
This absurd proposal has increased the worldwide hatred and condemnation of islam. We do not need a mosque there, and there is no reason as to why it has to be there.
It is time for a REAL islamic Leader came out and say, “ after due consideration, the islamic community will not seek to build a mosque on sacred ground zero where so many innocent people lost their lives at the hands of a foolish terrorist perverting the name of islam.” We as muslims should let the Americans heal their wounds.
It is time to treat each other equally, with respect, dignity, decency and consideration.
Reform Islam, protect the faith. Muslim people are now questioning their own faith and want clarification. We want assimilation we do not want to stick out like a sore thumb. We have had enough of the inaction
Ashraef Ahmed

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Thanks for sharing!