Australia: Muslim leader says Islam allows husband to beat wife as “last resort”

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[the_ad id=”87125″]Of course. Wife beating is sanctioned, even encouraged in the Quran. Respect it.

The mandate to beat one’s wife is in the Qur’an:

“Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” — Qur’an 4:34

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Muhammad “struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?” — Aisha (Sahih Muslim 2127) (source: Robert Spencer)

“Keysar Trad: ‘violence is a last resort,’” by Stefanie Balogh and Sam Buckingham-Jones, The Australian, February 23, 2017:

A prominent Muslim leader has apologised for statements conceding his religion allows for a husband to beat his wife as a “last resort”, saying he was “clumsy” in a television interview.

Keysar Trad, the president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, said the verse in the Koran that condones domestic violence “plays on the psychology of the man”, who would never resort to a physical beating because gifts like flowers, chocolates or a dinner date would come first.

“I’ve studied that verse in depth and I’ve discussed it with a number of Islamic scholars,” Mr Trad told Sky News’s Andrew Bolt last night.

“What this verse is saying is playing on the psychology of the man saying ‘violence is a last resort’. The first thing you must do is counselling.”

He said while part of the phrase is often translated as “admonish”, the Arabic word is closer to “give advice” or “engage in counselling”.

“What it does is a calming effect before you even consider using your hand, before you even consider any act of violence. Have you checked box number one, which is counselling? Have you checked box two? What does counselling entail?” he said.

“Well, maybe next time you should bring her a bunch of flowers, maybe next time you should bring her a box of chocolates, maybe next time you should take her out for dinner.”

This afternoon, Mr Trad released a statement categorically condemning all violence against women.

“Acknowledging my clumsy attempt to explain a verse from the holy Qur’an, I want to categorically condemn all forms of violence, especially violence against women, I condemn and deplore it and stress my continued zeal to support women against violence,” Mr Trad said.

“I sincerely apologise if my attempt to explain the verse is understood any differently, the Qur’an is a holy book that aims to improve human relations as well as spiritual relations, the verses of the Qur’an must be read alongside other verses and Hadiths that deal with the particular topic.

“For example, the Qur’an encourages partners to live amicably (with love and compassion) or separate beautifully (2:229).” Said Mr. Trad.

“Our beloved prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings upon him said: “The most perfect believer is one who is the best in courtesy and amiable manners, and the best among you people is one who is most kind and courteous to his wife”.”

‘Where are the feminists?’

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has questioned the absence of feminist outrage in relation to Mr Trad’s incendiary comments, accusing them of hypocrisy and describing the Muslim leader as “mad’’.

Mr Dutton described Mr Trad’s views as dangerous and said he should be roundly condemned.

“Where are the feminists? Where is the ABC on this Ray?’’ Mr Dutton said to Ray Hadley on 2GB.

“I suspect they will have nothing to say about it because they’re hypocrites.’’…

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Bill Rowland
Bill Rowland
7 years ago

Yeah he was clumsy…he got caught exposing Islam’s wicked nature.

taxpayer22
taxpayer22
7 years ago

Of course. Wife beating is sanctioned, even encouraged in the Quran.

peakpower
peakpower
7 years ago
Reply to  taxpayer22

It might be time to encourage it in the west. Not Islam, the wife beating part.

Jimmy was a Koranderthal
Jimmy was a Koranderthal
7 years ago

Taqiyyah!

michaelofsydney
michaelofsydney
7 years ago

You have a beautiful body Jimmy. I hope no one beats you,

Jimmy was a Koranderthal
Jimmy was a Koranderthal
7 years ago

Thank you on behalf of Anna Semenovich, Michael ;). http://m.maximonline.ru/maximgirls/anna-semenovich/

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago

Can you mail order her?

Jimmy was a Koranderthal
Jimmy was a Koranderthal
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Quite probably. Though she is loaded herself – ex pro ice skater, pop singer and model. Massive mamms.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

Mr Tad is an apostate. This is the official word on wife beating from islam. Feminists are mentally deranged persons who have low esteem, which they manifest by allowing themselves to be beaten. muslim women have no self esteem.

Respected Quran scholars in the past interpreted verse 4:34 with impressive candor. Tabari said that it means to “admonish them, but if they refused to repent, then tie them up in their homes and beat them until they obey Allah’s commands toward you.” Qurtubi told wife-beaters to avoid breaking bones, if possible, but added that “it is not a crime if it leads to death.” (source)

Muslim (4:1039) – “A’isha said [to Muhammad]: ‘You have made us equal to the dogs and the asses'” These are the words of Muhammad’s favorite wife, complaining of the role assigned to women under Islam.

York MSA Female students wearing hijab and niqab, who manned the Info Booth at the Central Square of York University, handed out to students the book “Women in Islam & Refutation of some Common Misconceptions,” authored by the Saudi scholar Dr. Abdul-Rahman al-Sheha and printed by the Saudi Dawah organization Muslim World League (رابطة العالم الاسلامي). For Blogwrath’s report on the event click here.

The following are excerpts from the book:

“Although beating of women is generally forbidden, Islam permits the beating of wives in a restricted and limited sense only as a final solution and acceptable valid reason when all else fails… Allah deals with the case of a wife who behaves immorally towards her husband’s rights. The treatment of this extremely sensitive issue comes in gradual stages… Third and final stage: Beating without hurting, breaking a bone, leaving black or blue marks on the body, and avoiding hitting the face or especially sensitive places at any cost. The purpose of beating her is only to discipline… This treatment is proved to be very effective with two types of women… The first type: Strong willed, demanding and commandeering women… The second type: Submissive or subdued women. These women may even enjoy being beaten at times as a sign of love and concern… Beating, according to the Islamic teachings, is listed as the last and final stage of disciplining methods.”

Martelson
Martelson
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Thanks for posting. What a ‘religion’ that has created this body of thought…. Wow!

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Martelson

The more a person learns about islam, the more disgusting it is.

Martelson
Martelson
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

My experience as well.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Martelson

Never heard of anyone in their right mind that actually studied islam and came to the conclusion that is is not demonic.

peakpower
peakpower
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

They’ve watched to many PBS specials on Islam and listen to NPR. Educated idiots that are conditioned to think they’re intellectuals but are nothing but fools. Filled with lies and can’t know the truth.
Just yesterday I was talking to a neighbor and he starts into how, from his “study”, Islam has good things like “all”religions. So I start quoting the quran six ways to Sunday about killing the non believer, strike terror into the non believer, fight the non believer, cut their heads off. You know the bread and butter of the Quran. The glazed look comes over his face and he reverts to his beloved conditioning of informed ignorance. What a dope parading around as knowledgable. These idiots are a danger to us all. Libturd politicians actually listen to these fools. I pray for a plague every day to come down from heaven to wipe them out. Can you pray with me? I think God’s had enough of it too? Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy plague will come. Libturds be done. On earth as they are not in heaven. Give us this day, a daily plague. Forgive us our tresspasses and please stop the libturds from tresspassing against us. And deliver us from Islam. For yours alone is the power to end this insanity. Amen!

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  peakpower

Th subtle “informercials” that islam has placed on the pseudo educational media are there to make islam look like it is a philosophy, religion and social system, when all it all the it really is, is a criminally inane rationally for rape, murder, lies and theft.

peakpower
peakpower
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

I got so disgusted that I don’t need to learn another thing about it. Bacha Bazi took me to rock bottom. Of maybe the cutting up of humans into go to meat markets, or throwing acid into women faces, of boy sex slaves, of decapitations, of FGM, or the gang rapes, or mass murders, of the endless terrorism. I know its only a short list. Where is my tolerence? It is all part of multi culturalism and diversity, after all. Or so I’m told.

peakpower
peakpower
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

If Bill had beat Hillary it might have shaped her moral character well enough to get the presidency.

patriotusa2
patriotusa2
7 years ago

It’s absurd to give people like this air time unless your intentions are to beat them down with every twisted ideology they possess. Wife beating is accepted in the world of Islam among many other demonic tenets, and their Sharia law allows it, along with honor killings. It’s a demonic religion instigated by a man who many of his own considered possessed.

Speak the Truth
Speak the Truth
7 years ago
Reply to  patriotusa2

This nutter apologized and tried to reinterpret his earlier explanations of islamic wife beating. The question is, why try so hard to deny beating, if islam also permits honor killing. It’s equivalent to saying, “I would never beat my wife, but torturing her to death would be acceptable.”

patriotusa2
patriotusa2
7 years ago

Yeah, the entire religion is one that would make the hounds of Hell proud. I remember the honor killings in this country where the parents and even brothers killed family members for “shaming” them. It’s demonic to allow any religion like this into America when not too long ago it never would have been tolerated.

purplej
purplej
7 years ago
Reply to  patriotusa2

I disagree. The more air time these loonies get, the more hope that the complacent will wake up. Andrew Bolt is a brave journalist who tackles the issues few others will.

patriotusa2
patriotusa2
7 years ago
Reply to  purplej

I posted that I would not allow them air time if no one had intentions of beating them down. If you’re going to sit there and allow them to deposit all their sick baggage without overpowering them with beat downs, then they will be the ones who accumulate the “complacents.”

purplej
purplej
7 years ago
Reply to  patriotusa2

Yes, I agree. Andrew Bolt is one journalist who is prepared to take them to task.

Dano50D
Dano50
7 years ago

I still remember overhearing this insanely inappropriate attempt at a joke, at a house party maybe 20 years ago.

“Why do men beat their wives? Because they just, don’t, listen.”

Turned out the guy who said it WAS beating his wife.

That alone shows how ^&%$ed up the Muslim line of thinking on this.

They simply cannot get through their thick skulls you don’t beat women for not behaving how you want them to.

I heard from local men ALL THE FREAKING TIME while I lived in Muslim countries, that the reason America, (I was Canadian but we all look alike to them.) is unhappy is because men don’t beat their women.

Liberals and feminists and whomever else here, who refuse to believe that Islam has this problem, I think of them something like that junkie slowly dying in the street.

I’d help someone as much as I can, no matter how many times they relapsed, as long as I knew they understood their behavior was wrong, and were trying.

But those see nothing wrong with such behavior, I can’t be bothered with anymore.

You can’t help everybody, and there are more than enough to help who are trying.

Hopefully down the road it will be harder decide who’s “worthy of help” and who isn’t, but right now there are plenty of blatantly obvious choices.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago

Q: What do you tell the muslimah who has two black eyes?
A: Nothing, her muslum husband told her twice already.

R. Arandas
R. Arandas
7 years ago

Actually, it is usually the “first resort”….

Patricia Anderson
Patricia Anderson
7 years ago

As a last resort that’s comforting. If you know anything about Islam is not a religion it’s a hegemonic totalitarian political ideology and it needs to be destroyed

Duchess of Pork
Duchess of Pork
7 years ago

Bolt now needs to invite the sharia apologist Yassmin Abdel-Magied onto his show to confirm the authenticity of Surah An Nisa 4:34. Perhaps Clementine Ford could also make a guest appearance. Should make for some lively fireworks from these two windbags.

michaelofsydney
michaelofsydney
7 years ago

Trad was the right hand man of the Mufti who declared the following in 2006:

From an article in The Australian newspaper.

In the religious address on adultery to about 500 worshippers in Sydney last month, Sheik Hilali said: “If you
take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it … whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?

“The uncovered meat is the problem.”

The sheik then said: “If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred.”

He said women were “weapons” used by “Satan” to control men.

conan_drum
conan_drum
7 years ago

Is it Ok for the wife to beat the husband then? I am sure they merit it it far more often.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
7 years ago

Wrong! At the first sign of disobedience, she gets beaten severely and not as a “last resort” like the muslim zombie has stated. Wife beating in the muslim zombie world is divinely ordained and justified in their quran and hadith. According to quran 4:34, it promotes wife beating. In other words, if the muslim women disobeys her husband, she gets beaten up until she cries ‘uncle’ and most of the time, the beatings continue after that. quran 4:34 and many others in their quran and hadith is to keep the wife under there (husband) control. Wife beating is ingrained in their quran and hadith. They, the muslim zombie husband follows the reprobate mind of muhammed, the same person who, in his writings compared women to domestic animals neighbor.

Peter Joffe
Peter Joffe
7 years ago

Muslim men are cowards as they beat up their wives. What sort of ‘god’ makes this acceptable? Obviously the sort of ‘god’ who allows for disfiguration and rape of women and girls. Islam is a system suppression and hatred which has been clearly proved over the centuries. In any event this type of behavior is not acceptable to decent people so keep it in Muslim countries where the men fee inferior and need to beat up their women to keep them in line. Muslim women are terrified to speak out as they will get more violent punishment or even be divorced. A ‘culture’ like this does not belong in the West. I wonder how many girls are raped by Mullahs in the name fo allah?

peakpower
peakpower
7 years ago

Wife beating is about the only good thing I can say about islam. It’s becoming painfully obvious to me that most western women need a good slap in the face at some point in there lives because they are getting to big for they’re inflated sense of selves thinking they can treat men as expendable penis’s always thinking they can get another men to exploit and where out. Spare the rod, spoil the Bi##h.

Jack Holan
Jack Holan
7 years ago

Mr. Trad allowed himself to get so comfortable that he slipped and let out the true interpretation of husband/wife relationship under Sharia in Islam. As far as, the behavior of Mohammad towards his wives I’ll let the Quran and Hadith speak volumes for him. Islam is not a religion that a Gloria Steinem would fit into ever.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  Jack Holan

That’s very unfair, there’s always room for slaves in the muslum world — just look at Mauritania, the Sudan or the Islamic State. They always have room for one more.

Apothis
Apothis
7 years ago

The guy is lying through his teeth.

BEVERLEY HUGHES
BEVERLEY HUGHES
7 years ago

Any normal sane religion would revise their holy book and translate it into modern 20th century life, but no not muslims, they glorify living like cavemen.

Robert Batchelor
Robert Batchelor
7 years ago

Yes, and their goal is for all of us to live like cavemen. We better wake up to this dangerous ideology masquerading as a religion. It’s going to be the death of all of us if we continue down this political correct path the world has been own—-that treats Islam with kid gloves.

Y.Gazit
Y.Gazit
7 years ago

The inferior, primitive race

Joseph111
Joseph111
7 years ago

denial ain’t just a river in Egypt …

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