As if there were any doubt ….
These chemical engineering students also plotted to unleash bioterror on hundreds on thousands of infidels.
Via Rail plot trial: Raed Jaser, Chiheb Esseghaier found guilty on several terror charges
Story continues below advertisementJurors return verdicts on the 10th day of deliberations, CBC News Posted: Mar 20, 2015
Raed Jaser and Chiheb Esseghaier, two men accused of plotting to derail a Via passenger train travelling between Canada and the U.S., have been found guilty of a series of terror-related charges.
Esseghaier was found guilty of all charges against him while Jaser was convicted on all but one charge. After 10 days of deliberation, the jury said it was “irrevocably deadlocked” on the charge against Jaser of “conspiring to interfere with transportation facilities for the benefit of a terrorist group.”
But Judge Michael Code told jurors he would accept their unanimous decision on the other charges.
Among the charges, both men were found guilty of conspiring to commit murder for the benefit of, at the direction of, or in association with a terrorist group.
Jaser’s lawyer had argued that his client was only pretending to be interested in the plan as part of an elaborate scheme to extract money from Esseghaier and the undercover officer.
Both men could face maximum punishment of up to life in prison.
‘Serious public dangers’
The lead prosecutor Croft Michaelson said it was an overwhelming case in terms of evidence, but also a difficult and legally complex case, which is why it took the jurors 10 days to come to their verdicts.
Asked about the accused, Michaelson said he would describe them as “real serious public dangers.”
Meanwhile, John Norris, defence lawyer for Jaser, praised and thanked the jurors for their diligence, despite the verdict.
“Raed is obviously disappointed, but he remains resilient, he remains strong, he continues to have confidence in us and continues to have confidence in the administration of justice.”
Asked about the one charge that deadlocked jurors, Norris said that the evidence on that charge and all of the charges was “highly equivocal” and that there were different explanations for the evidence.
“And that narrative seems to have held with some of the jurors. Regrettably not with all of them,” he said. “And we’ll see how things unfold in future proceedings.”
Before the jurors began their deliberations last week, the judge told them that the most important evidence in the case was 25 hours of secretly recorded conversations between the accused and an undercover FBI agent.
The officer posed as a wealthy Egyptian-American real estate developer whose views had supposedly become more hardline in recent years and who was a willing accomplice in the alleged conspiracy.
He rented a “safe house,” which had been bugged by police, for the operation. And he bought the two accused plotters meals, drove them to scouting locations and handed out cash.
- The strange non-defence of Chiheb Esseghaier
- Via plot judge took unusual steps to protect FBI agent
- Man accused of plotting attack offers advice to jurors
- Crown wraps arguments at trial of Jaser, Esseghaier
The court heard conversations in which Jaser and Esseghaier discussed their ideologies, the alleged plot to derail a Via Rail train travelling between New York and Toronto and other ideas for potential attacks, including Jaser’s alleged “sniper plot” idea, which would have been in retaliation for Canadian military actions in Muslim countries.
Jurors were also shown aerial surveillance of the two accused and the undercover officer scouting a railway bridge in September 2012 in broad daylight as several trains passed by only metres away.
Their presence on the bridge drew attention, and the men were stopped after they had returned to their vehicle by uniformed Toronto police officers who were unaware the men were under surveillance. The FBI agent told officers they were sightseeing and the men were given a warning.
Esseghaier refuses to participate in trial
Jaser, a Canadian permanent resident of Palestinian descent, pleaded not guilty. He did not testify in his own defence.
Esseghaier, a Tunisian national who was pursuing a PhD in Montreal when he and Jaser were arrested in April 2013, chose not to participate in his trial, because he wants to be judged by the rules of the Qur’an.
He did not cross-examine any witnesses or bring a defence, but he did offer the jury what he considered “sincere advice” in an unusual written closing statement, urging them to follow the rules of the Qur’an and prepare for “judgment day.”
He had a not guilty plea entered by the judge.
Esseghaier was charged with and found guilty of:
- Conspiring to murder persons unknown for the benefit of a terrorist group.
- Conspiring to interfere with transportation facilities for the benefit of a terrorist group.
- Three counts of participating in the activities of a terrorist group.
Jaser was charged and found guilty of:
- Conspiring to murder persons unknown for the benefit of a terrorist group.
- Two counts of participating in the activities of a terrorist group.
A mistrial was declared on Jaser’s charge of conspiring to interfere with transportation facilities for the benefit of a terrorist group
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Hopefully the new bill C-51 will make it easier to jail like minded terrorists who want to kill CANADIANS.
Goodbye, Jaser and Esseghaier, I know you will make good wives for someone where you are going.
Good news – now lets just hope the Canadian justice system keeps them in jail for life.
Life sentence is only 25 years and they will do their time for this.
I am hoping for at least 90 days. The judges are rather left leaning liberal types like John Quisling Kerry
The Judges are left leaning but they won’t get away with giving light sentences now for these terrorists. They’ll have to apply the full extent of the law towards them.
Note one of the terrorists was pursuing a PhD and had had a good job. Not exactly a poor disadvantaged Muslim.
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Flag the idiot!
looks like cab drivers….
now begins the coddling program by the canadian correction system until their appeal and possible release. even so they will very likely be out long before they are old men.
Not likely cmh! Things have changed under the Harper Gov’t.! These two will do their 25 years and will be shipped back to their countries of birth. Even the permanent Canadian resident can have his citizenship revoked!
Harper has stated before that Canada will not be safe haven for criminals and he walks his talk about that!
good for Harper. now if we had some AMERICANS LIKE THAT DEARBORN JUST MIGHT BE A SAFER PLACE TO LIVE..
Betty4440….
There are many Americans like that…it’s just your current Admin. that needs to get with the program! Until such time as Obi is out of office and the Dems are relegated to the back of the bus…. you won’t see much happening concerning the threat of ISIS or any other islamic terrorists.
Criminy…. the current admin. can’t even say the word terrorist!
after the attack on the Parliament, you mean. If they attacked the white house it would be hard for obola not to start a recruitment station for homeland security with them.
dad1927….
Harper stated this way before the attack on Parliament. It was after the Toronto 18 terrorists had threatened to kill him and to plant bombs elsewhere.
Harper started doing things differently and setting things in place to curtail what the islamists could do in Canada. We actually sent back many a few years ago that were criminals back in their place of origin.
LOL! obola is one of them. He said that he would stand beside his muslim brothers if the winds turned against them. One of the few times that the truth has rolled off his lying lips!
ISIS has approx. 50,000 terrorists already within the USA, waiting for their orders to start the killing, raping and pillaging of American infidels.
How do we stop them preaching jihad in prison?
If in the general population they just might find that Jailhouse rules are not kind to those who want to kill women and children for their religion.
i’m afraid the true north strong and free lets prisoners do whatever they want, and corrections officers do the minimum possible
we don’t really have a culture to crush creeps
The prisoners won’t! They have the jailhouse rules and anyone who hurts women and children is fair game for them.
Don’t think that Canada let’s prisoners do whatever they want either. We may not have the death penalty ( yet) but prisoners are prisoners. They don’t have free reign to do as they please.
Prison dawah is par for the course for jailed terrorists.
Everyone Else….
Yes, they will proselytize in prison….. but not every prisoner in there is going to be kind to them.
Stalin knew how to deal with these. The Chinese are coming to the same solution….
isolation works
we need to elect a people friendly govt, not these capitulators in the white hose.
‘Esseghaier, … chose not to participate in his trial, because he wants to be judged by the rules of the Qur’an.’ Did anyone read this or is it just me? Is there a separate legal system in Canada for muslim criminals? Of course, what this criminal is about to do has its root in the koran and is rewarded in Mohammed’s imaginary heaven, but what I don’t get is, are muslims allowed their barbaric sharia in Canada? How can he choose not to participate in his own trial in Canada? Of course he must have considered the civil judge an infidel and beneath him! Nevertheless, this logic is a convoluted!
Surely a judge at sentencing can add 5 years as punishment for presuming to be above the law. i mean they can do that can’t they?
That is what he said…..too bad though for him that Canada doesn’t have sharia court laws in our court rooms. We don’t even have Sharia Courts.
A few years ago this was put forward and voted on in our parliament….it was pretty well unanimously voted down by all political parties.
Esseghaier was tried and judged anyways by Canada’s Laws and found guilty as charged. If he didn’t want to be judged by our court system then he obviously shouldn’t have done the crime.
obola is requesting a 2 state solution for the USA once the numbers are up.
Look for a start give these repellent baboons a shave and a haircut. Maybe if they
looking like decent human beings they may start acting like such.
land fill maybe would be a use. Send them to old sparky. BTW, it looks like an obola meeting at rama damn time in the white house.
Would rather feed the sharks out in the Atlantic!
Well look at their faces, they certainly need to blame it on someone for being born like that. Perhaps, that’s why they hate women and the rest of the world so much. EVERYTHING and everyone looks better than they do. Cheap explanation, but take a look at all the so-called radical muslims… and then to normal men.
inbreeding at its finest. Their sisters, I mean wives are pumping out idiots by the bagful.
chose not to participate in his trial, because he wants to be judged by the rules of the Qur’an. No doubt because he thinks the Quran gives him permission to murder innocent people. Another of those who misunderstands the teachings of the prophet
He knew there was no Sharia law when he first came to canada
Islamism is as dangerous is Ebola.
Both are infectious and kill “randomly”..
You mean obola, in the white house? Africa brought us ebola, obola and nigerian scams so far.
Actually…..Obama and Hillary ( the White Angel of Death) brought the Ebola USA virus to Africa. Needed a testing ground for the “New and Improved” version. When all is said and done and the final results are tallied….. it will be used in America on Americans.
If you are white…you have a good chance of surviving it. If you’re black….. get your affairs in order.
he felt with violence, he could change that
Good. Very Good.
Lock him up. Same goes for all those who honor a child rapist and murderer prophet, Prophet of Islam.
They could get up to a year for it in Canada. Some brutal on a regular basis muzz bag in Quebec, Canada by mistake I suppose, beat his daughter to death for not cleaning under the carpet, and the judge gave 90 days to be served on weekends, Its REALLY serious when a liberal judge awards jail to a muslim there.
Others who have committed an honor killing have got life in prison.
When was this case in Quebec you speak of?
So…that happened in 2010…two years later we have the Shafia murders…..and they get life in prison.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/shafia-jury-finds-all-guilty-of-1st-degree-murder-1.1150023
Things have changed even more so since then. Canada is getting tougher on muslims who commit crimes and state it’s part of their religion.
There is one law for all in Canada and we expect anyone coming here to abide by them. Even on the front page of our Citizenship guide it states that Canada will not tolerate FGM, polygamy, child/forced marriages, Honor Killing, and other barbaric practices. http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.ca/2009/11/new-citizenship-guide-says-welcome-to.html
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Canada’s revamped citizenship guide warns newcomers that “barbaric cultural practices” such as honour killings will not be tolerated, marking a stronger tone against importing beliefs that clash with Canadian values.
“In Canada, men and women are equal under the law,” the document says. “Canada’s openness and generosity do not extend to barbaric cultural practices that tolerate spousal abuse, ‘honour killings,’ female genital mutilation or other gender-based violence. Those guilty of these crimes are severely punished under Canada’s criminal laws.”
The guide, released on Thursday and called Discover Canada: The Rights and Responsibilities of Canadian Citizenship, (read
the full guide: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/publications/discover/index.asp ) is the first of its kind to explicitly denounce violence in
the name of family honour — a crime in the headlines just this week after an Ottawa man was sentenced to a year in jail for threatening violence against his daughter.
While honour killings remain relatively rare in Canada, several high-profile cases have drawn attention to the issue. Even the use of the term “honour killings” has stirred debate, as critics of the wording say it implies the practice is accepted by certain religions when, in fact, it is not.
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